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Title: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: debodun on September 20, 2012, 08:07:59 am
I have a person bugging me to sell this bookcase to her. She says it's "mission". It's 42" tall and sturdy, but the varnish is not in really good condition. I was looking for a confirmation on it's being mission, maybe what kind of wood it is, and if $200 would be a reasonable price to ask for it.
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 09:12:41 am
There are many "Mission" book cases on the market..and this one looks like one.....with prices ranging from $70....to $4000....but before you start seeing $$ signs ...check out the link.......now whilst i do understand yours is older....it does not make it better...or more expensive...its a buyers market....and you have to pitch it at a price that,will attract  buyers

see link...
http://www.enterplayment.com/mission-4tier-shelf-p-1636405.html?currency=GBP
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: debodun on September 20, 2012, 09:21:46 am
That modern one translates to just under $120 in US money.
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 10:19:53 am
That modern one translates to just under $120 in US money.
I know...and this is what you are up against....does someone pay you $200 for one that needs stripped sanded...then varnished...or one straight off the shelf...the older one,s may have a following...i don,t know...its not my cup of tea....for in a house....but it would,nt look out of place in my garage....
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: ghopper1924 on September 20, 2012, 11:14:11 am
My understanding of "Mission," with it's positive overtones in the antique world denoting craftsmanship and materials, is that it is something from the first half of the 20th century, usually using quarter-sawn or at least solid oak, with strong, simple lines and built to last for centuries.

I do not get any of that from this photograph. This seller is using the term very loosely, in the same way that people throw around the term "antique," not knowing or caring that it should be used with care, to define objects within certain parameters.

"Mission style" or "Mission influenced" might be better terms. Like Wull said, I would see it in my garage or basement long before I'd allow it upstairs. 
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 20, 2012, 12:35:49 pm
Have you looked under the bottom of the shelves or bottom for possibly a makers name ?? And is the lady that wants it a collector ??
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 01:05:01 pm
My understanding of "Mission," with it's positive overtones in the antique world denoting craftsmanship and materials, is that it is something from the first half of the 20th century, usually using quarter-sawn or at least solid oak, with strong, simple lines and built to last for centuries.

I do not get any of that from this photograph. This seller is using the term very loosely, in the same way that people throw around the term "antique," not knowing or caring that it should be used with care, to define objects within certain parameters.

"Mission style" or "Mission influenced" might be better terms. Like Wull said, I would see it in my garage or basement long before I'd allow it upstairs. 
i,ve actually broken up better than this,for firewood.....
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 20, 2012, 02:50:31 pm
I think its a cute little bookshelf,, of course I am partial to Craftsman style !!  If you want to sell it and it doesn`t have a Mfrs name,, $200. would be a fair price if its in good condition and all it needs is new varnish !! That would be simple to do with denatured alcohol and 0000 steel wool to remove the old and apply a new coat !! But let the buyer do that !! I can see this shelf in a craftsman style bungalow !! Would look great !!
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 04:14:44 pm
I think its a cute little bookshelf,, of course I am partial to Craftsman style !!  If you want to sell it and it doesn`t have a Mfrs name,, $200. would be a fair price if its in good condition and all it needs is new varnish !! That would be simple to do with denatured alcohol and 0000 steel wool to remove the old and apply a new coat !! But let the buyer do that !! I can see this shelf in a craftsman style bungalow !! Would look great !!
I seem to remember you saying a few weeks ago that you were,nt telepathic....or something along those lines,.... ;D
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: ghopper1924 on September 20, 2012, 06:16:07 pm
I'm glad this bookcase has found a fan with Mart.

$200 seems WAY overpriced! :o
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 20, 2012, 06:21:58 pm
Craftsman style is quite popular generally and is one of my favorites !! I love anything in oak !!  The clean classic lines goes well with todays minimalist fans !!   You might be surprised !!!
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 07:06:32 pm
I,ve got a bloody big Oak tree at the back of my house,that blocks out what little sun we,ve had this year...you,re welcome to it.... :D...
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 20, 2012, 07:10:32 pm
There we go again,, shipping is too high !! LOL
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 07:36:18 pm
There we go again,, shipping is too high !! LOL
Thats ok..I know a shipwright and i,m friendly with my local sawmill....we can build you a boat.... :D...mind you its a bloody long way...to Texas...tell you what...why don,t i send you just a little piece of it........would a small bag of Acorns do....then you can have a few Oaks in your back garden LOL!
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 20, 2012, 07:51:08 pm
Could I return that favor and send you some Texas acorns ??  I have plenty to share !!
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 20, 2012, 08:04:29 pm
Could I return that favor and send you some Texas acorns ??  I have plenty to share !!
If they are the Giant ones ...yes please....and i,ll give you a bottle of Cairn' O' Mhor...Autumn Oak its lovely Scottish Plonk ...see link

http://cairnomohr.homestead.com/competition.html
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: cogar on September 21, 2012, 04:15:11 am
Now that bookcase might be made of Live Oak but it doesn't look to me like it was made of either Red Oak or White Oak.

The shelves should have been mortised into the legs or affixed with dowel pins, not screws & plugs.
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: ghopper1924 on September 21, 2012, 05:16:28 am
"The shelves should have been mortised into the legs or affixed with dowel pins, not screws & plugs."

My point exactly.
 
 
 
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: bigwull on September 21, 2012, 05:50:50 am
So some of us are in agreement...we would have it in the shed or garage,but not in the house....whilst others think is the dogs bollocks...and worth a fair bit.... ;)
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 21, 2012, 07:05:14 am
I think this was a part of later cottage type furniture !! Not from the arts and crafts period !! Just in that style !! Probably late 40`s or 50`s !!
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: ghopper1924 on September 21, 2012, 08:29:08 am
Definitely later, no doubt about it. NOT Mission! Just trying to trade on the quality implied by the name!
Title: Re: Is this a "mission" bookcase?
Post by: mart on September 21, 2012, 08:39:36 am
Yes,, Just because its in that "style" doesn`t mean its from that period !! Furniture like this was produced well into the 60`s !!  Many pieces wound up in lake or hunting cabins !!