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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: jacon4 on April 23, 2013, 11:01:03 am
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Coastal Connecticut, 1690-1720
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Cool!
It's hard to believe that paint's original.
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It's hard to believe that paint's original.
LOL, well, maybe thats because it has been inpainted from losses to original paint decoration. The pulls are original though as is most of the chest. Although some inpainting has happened, still a stunning example of early american work.
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An amazing piece!!
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CORRECTION!!!
According to George Dudley Seymour (owner of chest who donated it to conn. historical society) in his condition report states "original decoration perhaps slightly retouched". This is quite common for chests of this age to have "issues", if it's perfect, it's probably not 300 years old.
Bottom line? I am THRILLED to be able to own this chest for even a short while, it's a national treasure and wonderful example of early american work. I just purchased it about 5 mins ago.
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I was about to ask if this was a new acquisition before I got to the last post !!! Very nice Jacon4 !!
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How different things are in the US...here,s this blanket chest,made from whitewood...which is Spruce...yet over here in the UK..most of our old blanket chests or Kists as we call them..are made of Yellow pine...which is Oregon Pine....you,d think it would be the opposite way round, as we have an abundance of Spruce trees, ...we also have Douglas Fir...which is also called Oregon Pine...
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Actually, the chest is poplar, which is a hard wood. It responds well to tools and paints like a dream, you see it most often in non painted american pieces as secondary wood.
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Bottom line? I am THRILLED to be able to own this chest for even a short while, it's a national treasure and wonderful example of early american work. I just purchased it about 5 mins ago.
I certainly hope you mean you're thrilled even after just 5 mins of having owned it........not, it'll be moving on to someone else!! ::)
Absolutely beautiful piece! If only they could talk.
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And is usually used in furniture made in the NE !! In the south you will find the pine pieces along with a few others but predominately pine !!
I agree Sapphire !! Lovely piece !!
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sapphire, well, you know, a piece of this age was here long before me and it'll be here long after i am gone so what i mean is this chest and i will have a nice visit, one really doesn't "own" this kind of work, it will continue on after my time with it.
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Actually, the chest is poplar, which is a hard wood. It responds well to tools and paints like a dream, you see it most often in non painted american pieces as secondary wood.
Oh i know poplar is a hardwood, ..i was only picking up what it says on the description note that you listed,..then googled ..whitewood.....and got Spruce... ;) ;)
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sapphire, well, you know, a piece of this age was here long before me and it'll be here long after i am gone so what i mean is this chest and i will have a nice visit, one really doesn't "own" this kind of work, it will continue on after my time with it.
In other words, you're a steward. That's a good attitude to have when thinking about pieces like this one, or any quality piece that was here before you and, with care, will be here long after you as well.
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bigwull, that description of "whitewood" was by Seymour himself written in 1945 at the time of his donation to the society. Since tulip poplar is white in color, i am guessing thats why he called it that. Seymour was born in 1859 in Hartford, was a prominent lawyer and acquired many pieces of early american furniture, all of which he donated to the connecticut historical society at the time of his death in 1945.
I think Seymour was using whitewood as a generic term, in this case, tulip poplar.
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In other words, you're a steward
ghopper, EXACTLY. anytime you get a piece of historical and artistic significance, thats been examined, published and in general, pawed over by many, there is a certain sense of responsibility that goes with it.
I have a ton of pics of this piece that i was going to post but since the photo feature is on the fritz here, it'll have to wait :(
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Actually, the chest is poplar, which is a hard wood. It responds well to tools and paints like a dream, you see it most often in non painted american pieces as secondary wood.
Tulip Poplar was also used as the primary wood in many early or pre-1900 American pieces (primitives) such as blanket chests, cupboards, cabinets, etc., due to its characteristics of being light (yellowish to white) colored, straight no-distinct grain which make for an even coat of stain or buttermilk paint, extremely strong, easily sawed or carved, light in weight as compared to oak and maple, …. and last but not least, ….. the virgin Poplar was plentiful and extremely large trees ….. and thus the source of most “single-board” furniture.
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A But..when you google whitewood you get Spruce...and that,s all i was acting on...if that was sold over here with that sales description, then the buyer later finds out..its not whitewood...but poplar...well, suffice to say the original seller gets sued..and the buyer gets more than his money back...its called the "sales description act"
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Cogar, yeah, poplar is a great wood for furniture building, no doubt. When used as a primary wood, it was always PAINTED! and, unfortunately, during the 60s craze of stripping old furniture of it's paint, many 17th, 18th and 19th century american pieces, lost their paint decoration.
"A But..when you google whitewood you get Spruce"
bigwul, google is not the definitive word on something like that, many species can and are referred to as "whitewood". What i am trying to say is, there is no tree species "whitewood". It's really a generic term.
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But, but Bigwull, ...... Linden or Basswood is also a "whitewood" hardwood ..... and in my opinion it is "whiter" than Poplar, Hemlock or Spruce .... but maybe not the Eastern White Pine.
To wit, Basswood boards ...
(https://mychipcarving.com/Chip_Carving/Store/Practice_boards/basswood_boards.jpg)
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How about Holly? it's about as white as you can get and cabinetmakers use it today as inlay on high end pieces.
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OOPS, you are right, I forgot about Holly. ;D ;D
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Congratulations!...That's a beautiful piece, you must be as proud as a new parent.
(I was just looking at an online catalog for an upcoming auction in MD, and see they have an interesting sounding early chest. 1677...I don't even think I find rocks that old around here. ;)
"Estimate: $2,000-$4,000
Exceedingly Rare and Important Pilgrim Century American White Pine Chest with Elaborate Carving Incorporating Stars, Inscribed "A.C" and "A.W.," Dated 1677, possibly New York State or New Jersey, the front with chip-carved decoration of five-pointed stars and geometric designs, the midsection bearing the carved initials "A.C." and "A.W." flanking the date "1677" within carved diamond borders, interspersed with four-pointed stars within diamond borders. Old dark green painted surface. Hand-forged iron handles...")
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I do know that there is,nt a whitewood tree,.i,m not that dumb!.....over here its a Spruce tree,that gives whitewood...not a poplar, holly, or whatever other split hair you can name...as for google being the definitive word..i,d never heard of google when i first went to the timber merchants 40 odd years ago,..and was told then,,,, that whitewood came from Spruce, or Silver Fir....and yellow pine comes from Oregon pine..or as we call it Douglas fir....to me its like ..black is black and white is white....there,s no in between...If it says whitewood comes from Spruce/silver fir then thats where it comes from.....simples... .
Exceedingly Rare and Important Pilgrim Century American White Pine Chest
Rauville ..there are times when i could hug you....Oh..and yer big book.. ;D ;D.
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Congratulations!...That's a beautiful piece, you must be as proud as a new parent.
Rauville, THANKS! yes, i am and eagerly await my time to "paw over" this piece under 1000 watts of halogen light.
Yeah, the piece you refer to is a blanket chest coming up for sale by Crocker Farm who specialize in stoneware. They have already alerted every antiquarian in the country, trust me.
http://www.crockerfarm.com/maryland-auction/2013-05-04/lot-323/Important-American-Pilgrim-Century-Blanket-Chest-Dated-1677/
Theres another piece coming up at Brunk in Asheville, a 17th century oak chest that they attribute to the mason-messenger shop which i think is wrong, i say it was carved by thomas dennis and therefore an opportunity to get a piece by the most celebrated american joiner of the 17th century.
http://www.brunkauctions.com/lot-detail/?id=94982
I would add that these auction estimates are pure marketing BS and ridiculously low, they are designed to create a MAJOR BUZZ among those that might be interested.
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I do know that there is,nt a whitewood tree,.i,m not that dumb!.....over here its a Spruce tree,that gives whitewood...not a poplar, holly, or whatever other split hair you can name...as for google being the definitive word..i,d never heard of google when i first went to the timber merchants 40 odd years ago,..and was told then,,,, that whitewood came from Spruce, or Silver Fir....and yellow pine comes from Oregon pine..or as we call it Douglas fir....to me its like ..black is black and white is white....there,s no in between...If it says whitewood comes from Spruce/silver fir then thats where it comes from.....simples... .
AAAWWW, .... Bigwull, ise couda probably done told you the same thing that lumberyardy man told you 40 years ago iffen you had just ask me.
You sezee, I knew that yor kinfolk and others, .... and especially those English blokes had done cut down most all of the timber in the British Isles long before you were born ..... and the King done laid claim to all the biggest n' best Pine timber in Colonial New England for ship building ..... which resulted in the Pine Trees War or Pine Tree Riots, ... whichever ya wanna call it, .... against Great Britian in 1772, to wit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot)
;D ;D (da Devil made me do da)
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That,s the English fur ye..you can never trust an Englishman...well, maybe i,m being a wee bit harsh..on the man in the street,..its their "nobility"that ye cannae trust...you jist have tae look at a their big stately hooses, tae ken whaur they got a the money tae build them....aff the backs o, the pare peasants...and ..they,re still at it today....me,me,me,...take,take,take,.....its nae wonder Scotland is looking tae break away....its oor oil, but them thieving Scallywags doon in London...take it all,... ;D ;D
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Alrighty then, after being out of town for 3 weeks, i finally was able to accept delivery of this chest this past saturday, as they were unloading it the first thing i noticed is, "Squiggles" painted on the moulding below the lid.
Anyone know the origin on this type of painted decoration, you see it in american 17th century painted pieces, did they do this in europe i wonder or this is an american quirk/fad in the 17th century?
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No, you wouldn't see marks like that on British furniture from that period. Maybe carved bands or panels that looked similar
Parquetry or inlay on some Indian or South American pieces from that era and i guess that's where the influence came from.
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That's really odd !! Only time I have seen similar is in a faux finishing technique !! Mostly used to decorate less expensive boxes and such !! Haven`t seen anything on painted pieces like this !! Usually done with a wash and whatever tool was at hand !!
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No, you wouldn't see marks like that on British furniture from that period.
Yeah, i didnt think that there was english painted decoration like that. It's quite common in american 17th century pieces though, native american inspired perhaps?
SQUIGGLES, lol, it's so odd in a way and delightful at the same time. When you look at this chests paint decoration, it's very precise and geometric however, this guy worked squiggles in there anyway on the cornice below the lid.
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Ha !! Added his own touch perhaps ??
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Well, i have asked around, no one seems to know what the deal is on squiggles except that they are there. You see them on all sorts of different pieces, tables, chests, court cupboards, etc. This chest was built in Connecticut but, i have seen this sort of decoration on pieces built in Mass. as well so it was more than a regional thing. It appears Americans were into squiggles for whatever reason.
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Pardon me for my lateness in adding to the discussion but I am totally blown away by that piece. I wish I could see it in person. Is it any where near the Jersey Shore or still in CT? Glad it wasn't here or it might not be anymore.
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Hey frogpatch, It was in Connecticut, Woodbury to be exact but it is now here with me safely ensconced in Charlotte NC. This piece has great presence, the photo does not do it justice, a wonderful example of early americana, a true survivor. If you ever find yourself in the Carolinas, give me a shout as i am always up to let folks see my collection and talk old furniture.
LOL and no, you cant take the chest with you :)
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Do I hear road trip coming up Frogpatch ??
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Hmmm. Low country cooking. She crab soup. Carolina BBQ with that vinegar mop sauce is the best. Sorry all you other southern folks but a Carolina pulled pork sandwich is awesome especially with slaw on it. I only know Ralph's but I here that there are many even better I am heading to Florida soon to recover my storage so a side trip may be in order. Jacon4 are you in NC or SC? Near the coast or inland? I have been dying to see Charlotte and Charleston.
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Charlotte NC, on the border of SC, about 3 hrs away from Charleston SC. The best bar b q in the carolinas is, Lexington #1 in Lexington NC, about an hour north of Charlotte. They smoke 300 pork shoulders a day there, double that on the weekend, KILLER Q!
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I am backing up my PC tonight so I do not lose that. Awesome.
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I expect a full report when you get back !! With pics !!
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You have the focal point of a collection in that one piece...very nice.
I found it interesting (attached link) to see what it cost to have a chest painted back in the early 1800's...Wow, $4.70!
That was probably a month's worth of groceries for most folks. ;)
http://www.folkartmuseum.org/?t=images&id=3512 (http://www.folkartmuseum.org/?t=images&id=3512)
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Yeah, once upon a time, painting was a distinct trade done by professionals who made their own paint. When paint in a can came out sometime around the 1850s, everyone was now a painter and the paint tradesmen fell on hard times i would imagine.
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Well, i have asked around, no one seems to know what the deal is on squiggles except that they are there. You see them on all sorts of different pieces, tables, chests, court cupboards, etc.
Well now, "squiggles" are a good way to clean excess paint from the brush, .... are decorative .... and doesn't waste the paint.
They are also good for camouflaging a mistake. ;D ;D
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lol cogar, somehow, i dont think thats it. Some have speculated that it may have been a substitute for carving but i dont think thats correct either. This chest had no carving but i have seen other pieces with both carving & squiggles. The squiggle thing is odd, no doubt but, it keeps things interesting trying to figure out why they did that.
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Well then Jacon, ..... maybe if you could contact the artist who painted these "squiggles" and ask them what their significance is, to wit:
(http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/D54114/an_english_slipware_small_circular_dish_18th_century_d5411449h.jpg)
Or the artist who painted these "squiggles", to wit:
(http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m19btd0IPSizww54vYesCJg.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well, i have asked around, no one seems to know what the deal is on squiggles except that they are there. You see them on all sorts of different pieces, tables, chests, court cupboards, etc.
Well now, "squiggles" are a good way to clean excess paint from the brush, .... are decorative .... and doesn't waste the paint.
They are also good for camouflaging a mistake. ;D ;D
Yeah!,and just like Artex..they hide a multitude of sins....
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lol cogar, i would if i could!
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Well then Jacon, ..... maybe if you could contact the artist who painted these "squiggles" and ask them what their significance is, to wit:
(http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/D54114/an_english_slipware_small_circular_dish_18th_century_d5411449h.jpg)
Or the artist who painted these "squiggles", to wit:
(http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m19btd0IPSizww54vYesCJg.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
horizontal squiggles.. usually mean water, and verticle squiggles,can be rain, worms, or in the case of Snakes & ladders...snakes...
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I've asked everyone i know plus check research books of them, so far, no go. The plate squiggles kinda make sense, it's the main theme of the decoration, in this chests case though they are not and somewhat out of place with the theme of it's decor. Yet, he got them in there anyway, almost hidden.
It's kinda like "wedged dovetails", i have been looking for an answer to why some german americans built using this construction for going on 30 years now, or ever since i got an 18th century painted chest from the Shenandoah valley. Here is the back of a drawer where you can see this type of construction well.
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It's kinda like "wedged dovetails", i have been looking for an answer to why some german americans built using this construction for going on 30 years now, ...
Jacon, I don't think I really understand what your question is. ??? ??? ???
Why wouldn't they use that "dovetail", .... it is simple to "mark n' cut" ..... and as strong as any other "dovetail".
When making "one-of-a-kind", ..... that is the simplelest and quickest one to "cut" .... because it doesn't require any "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements, ..... it's all per say "freehand" markings.
OOPS, I forgot to include ........ if you don 't "cut them to fit" ....... then you "fit them to the cut" by driving a "wedge" into the "tail".
If you "mark" for the dovetail and then "saw the line" .... then you have to "wedge it".
Otherwise, you hafta saw on the inside of the lines for the "dove" and on the outside of the lines for the "tail". ;D
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It's kinda like "wedged dovetails", i have been looking for an answer to why some german americans built using this construction for going on 30 years now, or ever since i got an 18th century painted chest from the Shenandoah valley. Here is the back of a drawer where you can see this type of construction well.
I asked DH (serious woodworker) about the dovetails. He says that apparently this was a well known German technique for strengthening sloppy dovetails. It's interesting to see that some handmade high end furniture makers are using this technique as a decorative feature using different woods to show it off. BTW, fantastic piece. Lucky you! GG
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I must be the odd one out....i think its guggit... ;D D...
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Cogar, that dovetail is ALOT of extra work when one considers the standard way to attach pins & tails is to put a dab of glue on them, then assemble. This wasnt a one of a kind germanic construction detail just very few germans did this sort of construction. Another thing, they did this on the case as well (didnt include a pic as it's painted & harder to see) and required very precise layout with much larger dovetails. Indeed, these guys would give a modern day CNC machine a run for it's money in terms of precision joinery. This kind of construction takes time and, if one is doing it for a living, time is money.
Another factor here is, they were competing against other immigrants who went with the dab of glue assembly. Generally speaking, when you look at the joinery that is visible on 18th century pieces, the quality was usually very good however, when you look at the "hidden" joinery (like drawers for instance) it tended to be quite primitive suggesting someone else (like an apprentice) did it. You could not get away with letting a beginner do this sort of joinery, even if it was hidden.
I suspect the above reasons is why very few americans did this type of joinery and it didnt last very long either, it just wasnt economically viable.
GG, no way was this done by your average 18th century german cabinet maker, very few did it and when you look at the precision, it's very impressive. No way was this done to "fix" sloppy joinery.
There was a discussion on this several years ago in another forum on SAPFM (society of american period furniture makers) which has some of the best wood workers in the nation, for those interested
http://www.sapfm.org/forum/index.php?topic=1188.0
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Jason, I added an "OOPS, FORGOT" to my above post.
And concerning this from your above post .....
and required very precise layout with much larger dovetails.
Jason, the only precision involved is "sawing a straight line".
Unless you want the dovetails to be EXACTLY the same distance between one another.
The length/depth of the tail/dove is determined by the "thickness" of the opposing board ...... and the width of the "dove" is determined by the width of the "tail" or vice versa, ........ which ever ones are cut first.
Jason, I learned how to cut those dovetails by watching Roy Underhill do it on one of his programs on …… The Woodwright's Shop ….. http://www.tv.com/shows/the-woodwrights-shop/ (http://www.tv.com/shows/the-woodwrights-shop/)
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Cogar, OK, i am easy, have it your way :)
I think Al Breed came closest to the reason, some "shop tradition" in Germany which they brought with them however, the question i ask is, why?
I cliked that link, it shows Roy building a Shaker cupboard?
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More like a tad bit of arrogance than easy.
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Well no, i wouldnt say arrogant, i would say i dont accept your argument is all
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Does it really matter which way the doves have been cut...as long as they are doing the job,then that,s all that matters...after all...its not as if its Rocket science...
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I would agree that its most likely a handed down technique,, small area,, father to son type or master to apprentice !! Its a unique way to do it but it would certainly make a stronger joint !! Interesting !!!
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GG, no way was this done by your average 18th century german cabinet maker, very few did it and when you look at the precision, it's very impressive. No way was this done to "fix" sloppy joinery.
My previous post didn't explain very well that I didn't mean to suggest that it was sloppy joinery on your piece, only that it was a traditional way of doing this, originally conceived as a way to fix sloppy joinery & morphed into a tradition with some German cabinet makers. That's why we indicated that it is now used by high end cabinet makers as a design feature. GG
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Does it really matter which way the doves have been cut
No, not really although, there have been more words written (some say wasted) about dovetails than any other joinery method, indeed, entire books have opined on dovetails. Dovetail joinery is something like 4000 years old but didn't reach widespread use until the 18th century. Wedged dovetails when done by a master are decorative, no doubt about that but in this virginia chest case, it's painted and it's difficult for me to imagine this chest builder went to the trouble of doing that and then covering them with paint.
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Jacon, I wasn't arguing with you, .... I was making a statement of fact.
No one ever wrote a Rule Book of Cabinet Making that it was mandatory for everyone to abide by.
Thus, one learned on their own, learned from another person, learned as an apprentice, copied work of another person and/or all of the aforesaid. If you built it for yourself then you built it however you wanted to and if you were working for another person then you built it the way that person wanted it built or approved the building of it. Furniture was built for “then n’ there” …. and not for how someone was going to appraise it 100 or 300 years in the future.
Anyway, for those who are interested, the dovetail “cut” explained, to wit:
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Sometimes this place is better than a soap opera... ;D
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...and sometimes worse. ::)
Oh, and I've seen the phrase "per say" misused enough that it's time to set the record straight.
"Per se," is a latin phrase (not english) that means "in and of itself."
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...and sometimes worse. ::)
Oh, and I've seen the phrase "per say" misused enough that it's time to set the record straight.
"Per se," is a latin phrase (not english) that means "in and of itself."
Aw geeeze, grasshopper, …. I was not per se’ing anything, … I was per say’ing a fact ….. when I said this statement, to wit:
(Reply #48) …. that is the simplest and quickest one to "cut" .... because it doesn't require any "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements, ..... it's all per say "freehand" markings.
And here are the “rules” that I pondered over before I said the above, with the ones I chose being underlined, to wit:
per – (adverb)
…. 1. For each one; apiece: sold the cookies for one dollar per.
…. 2. Per hour:
per – (preposition)
…. 1. For each (used with units to express a rate).
…. 2. By means of: "send it per express".
adverb – (noun)
A word or phrase that modifies or qualifies an adjective, verb, or other adverb or a phrase, expressing a relation of place, time,...
per se – (adverb)
By or in itself or themselves; intrinsically: "it is not these facts per se that are important".
Given the above, then, to wit:
(Reply #48) …. that is the simplest and quickest one to "cut" .... because it doesn't require any "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements, ..... it's all per say "freehand" markings.
"Say" is the verb, .... "per" is the modifying adverb, .... "freehand" is the adjective .... and "markings" is the noun.
And "freehand markings" is not "by or in itself" meaningful of anything, but is in fact a reference to the aforesaid ..... "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements.
grasshopper, I quite often use the phrase "per say" because it is what I am saying, aka: per my opinion, .... per my experience, ..... per my reasoning.
And those are the reasons for my madness. ;D ;D
Being an old computer designing dinosaur, it is not uncommon for me to apply "new meanings" to old words or phrases.
Cheers
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so what you,re saying is in a roundabout way is....what i,ve thought for a while.....you,re a bit like some on here....."a penny short of a Shilling"....coupled with all that mountain air.... ;D
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Cogar, gee wiz, CALM DOWN! As my father used to say " theres enough ways in this world for everyone to have their own". It's fine to offer your opinion and strongly argue it, its not OK to argue your position is the only one that matters. :)
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...and sometimes worse. ::)
Oh, and I've seen the phrase "per say" misused enough that it's time to set the record straight.
"Per se," is a latin phrase (not english) that means "in and of itself."
Aw geeeze, grasshopper, …. I was not per se’ing anything, … I was per say’ing a fact ….. when I said this statement, to wit:
(Reply #48) …. that is the simplest and quickest one to "cut" .... because it doesn't require any "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements, ..... it's all per say "freehand" markings.
And here are the “rules” that I pondered over before I said the above, with the ones I chose being underlined, to wit:
per – (adverb)
…. 1. For each one; apiece: sold the cookies for one dollar per.
…. 2. Per hour:
per – (preposition)
…. 1. For each (used with units to express a rate).
…. 2. By means of: "send it per express".
adverb – (noun)
A word or phrase that modifies or qualifies an adjective, verb, or other adverb or a phrase, expressing a relation of place, time,...
per se – (adverb)
By or in itself or themselves; intrinsically: "it is not these facts per se that are important".
Given the above, then, to wit:
(Reply #48) …. that is the simplest and quickest one to "cut" .... because it doesn't require any "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements, ..... it's all per say "freehand" markings.
"Say" is the verb, .... "per" is the modifying adverb, .... "freehand" is the adjective .... and "markings" is the noun.
And "freehand markings" is not "by or in itself" meaningful of anything, but is in fact a reference to the aforesaid ..... "dimensions" or "spacing" measurements.
grasshopper, I quite often use the phrase "per say" because it is what I am saying, aka: per my opinion, .... per my experience, ..... per my reasoning.
And those are the reasons for my madness. ;D ;D
Being an old computer designing dinosaur, it is not uncommon for me to apply "new meanings" to old words or phrases.
Cheers
What a load of horse shit....
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Well, i prefer to think cogar is having a bad day, perhaps a bad week. It'll be OK, it always is!
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Looks like a lot of rationalizing to me but oh well.
I made my point. Time to move on.
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Oh my, from now on I will try to remember to write is as "to per se say" ... just to appease your nurtured beliefs that that is the only way it can be gratamatically written to be understood.
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You forgot about...Robin Van Persie.....and Percy Jackson....then there,s Perseus....the list is endless....why don,t you just agree to be wrong..even although you, think you ,re right,but the consensus of opinion.is .that all of the gobbledygook that you wrote....was and is a pile of horse manure.... ;D
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Bigwull, you are hilarious.
Claiming that you have a laptop ..... but you don't wear a kilt or a dress is funny as hell.
Do you also climb up on tree branches and twitter like a bird.
And being someone who violates most all the rules of English grammar, and could care less, but then being the most vocal about what you perceive to be my one (1) incident of a misuse of grammar, ….. just has to be per se say, a clear cut case of “antique’er harassment”.
Harassment, .... as in all cases, .... not what was said, ... but who said it.
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OK, we have managed to take a lovely piece of EA furniture and turn it into a whole OTHER THING, i tried to remove this entire thread but it wont let me. :(
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Hijacked.
Usually, and I say usually, it happens after we've already more or less dealt with a topic. That's when the tangents take over. People are always free to stop reading, no need to delete.
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OK, we have managed to take a lovely piece of EA furniture and turn it into a whole OTHER THING, i tried to remove this entire thread but it wont let me. :(
You Did,nt you hear me..wanting to remove my thread when you hijacked it..a little while back....."what were your words"...something along the lines...that the thread had ran its course?...well, its the same here...what goes around...comes around.....now go and pick up all your toys that you chucked out of the pram.... ;D
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Bigwull, you are hilarious.
Claiming that you have a laptop ..... but you don't wear a kilt or a dress is funny as hell.
Do you also climb up on tree branches and twitter like a bird.
And being someone who violates most all the rules of English grammar, and could care less, but then being the most vocal about what you perceive to be my one (1) incident of a misuse of grammar, ….. just has to be per se say, a clear cut case of “antique’er harassment”.
Harassment, .... as in all cases, .... not what was said, ... but who said it.
...Me Harass you...perish the thought...and how do you know i don,t wear a kilt...and as for your misuse of grammar...i don,t give a hoot..about your grammar...as mines is no better....... ;)
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UPDATE!!!
OK, in reading Dean A Fales wonderful book "American Painted Furniture 1660-1880" , it's become obvious this blanket chest was not built in Connecticut as George Seymour (original collector) & CHS thought. It was most likely built in Hadley Massachusetts. I could care less but is pretty sure Mr Seymour would be disapointed to learn that this chest was not made in his beloved Conn. Thankfully, he is not here to know this :)