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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: corkysgold on August 19, 2013, 06:53:43 pm
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picked this junkin at an estate sale. Have found some values online. Oil on canvas with canvas measuring approximately 14" x 20". Has a Marshall Fields price tag marked $650.00. Looks re-framed. Any opinions
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I'm curious as to what that little roundish 'tag' on the back of your item says , corkysgold .....
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Good images but could i have one of an area of the painting at an angle, just to see the oil ?
The circular sticker is some sort of association member sticker.
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If this is a genuine Crosio...then i,find it hard to believe that its only priced at $650....when some of his works sell for 30 times that price...
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18740/lot/32/
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The round sticker is a member of the bond street association sticker. I have included the Marshall Field tag and a close up of the painting from the side. I have looked at the painting with a loop and it sure looks like an oil painting to me.
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Stop and think !! $650. was a substantial amount in the 1930`s when this was likely sold !! Can you actually feel the paint ridges ??
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have i grabbed the wrong end of the stick...by thinking it was priced at $650...now,..if so, what is their asking price of this...or have you already bought it....for.....$$$?
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He bought it at an estate sale !! First post but didn`t tell amount he paid !! Would like to know though !!
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There is a paint texture to the surface. My mom is a professional artist who paints in oils so I have some knowledge about paintings. I showed it to her and she agrees that it is a painting. My main concern is that the painting is a vintage reproduction. I paid $85 for the piece.
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http://www.rubylane.com/item/862876-CS-367/Vintage-1930s-Lithograph-Canvas-Frederic
They did do litho`s on canvas as you can see here !! Best is to take it to a good gallery and have it evaluated !! We really can`t say yes or no from pics !!
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If this is a genuine Crosio...then i,find it hard to believe that its only priced at $650....when some of his works sell for 30 times that price...
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18740/lot/32/
That's vastly superior.
This oil on canvas of a similar subject matter sold for $36,000
http://www.artvalue.com/auctionresult--crosio-luigi-1835-1915-italy-lezione-di-musica-1766161.htm
I've seen a few of his oil on boards go for several hundred or low four figures. My guess is that he was copied and some of the works attributed to him weren't his, hence the huge disparities in price.
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taking it to Dumouchelles on Wednesday.
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Stop and think !! $650. was a substantial amount in the 1930`s when this was likely sold !! Can you actually feel the paint ridges ??
That Marshall Field's sticker doesn't look 1930's
Without seeing it first hand, and looking at the condition, i'd say $4,000-6,000 if it's original. My concern would be the Marshall Field's sticker and the Cooling Galleries label. Unlikely to have gone through both places but the gallery label certainly adds value if genuine.
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That year was guesstimation on my part !! Just the feeling it gives me !!
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The painter died in 1915 so that would be a concern...
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Why ??
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I found through my research that Marshall Field used to have an art department. They sold art and did framing, unfortunately I could not find reference to the years that they offered art. When I look at the Marshall Field tag I assumed that the 650.00 was a price, but there's no dollar sign on the sticker. Perhaps Marshall Field just reframed the painting, and the sticker is related to the frame and not a price at all. The Cooling Gallery started in the 1800's and has been out of business for thirty years. Thanks for all the positive help. I am so excited about this painting my head could explode.
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keep yer cool..i,ve seen one or two exploding heads in the past......not nice......and for those of you who might wonder....it was in my M.A.D days.... ;D
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Just get the gallery to have a look and let us know what they say !! I think the 650. was the price back then frame and all !! Remember that would have been a years work for many people !! It was a hefty sum !! Back then his work would have seemed cheap by todays standard !!
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Too many 'things' happening with the framing elements , tagging & misc. to be definitive , IMO , on the on-line deal & agree that you're on the right track towards checking it out , corkysgold .
If it was in my sweaty little mitts , I'd have sliced out & removed the strecher-frame/canvas assembly by now (more tales may be told by uncovering that which cannot be currently seen) to have a good eyeball at it (or @ least one edge of it to take a peek at the canvas & edge elements) !
Don't be too shocked if it's a 'copy' , a multiple or etc. (even those can be worth some bucks) & that way you can have a bigger shock if a one-off , coreysgold !
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Even canvas litho`s are not bad !!
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I wanted to leave the painting as original as possible.
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just got back from Dumouchelles. The painting is real. He figures Marshall Field sold it as well as the Cooling Gallery somewhere in it's history. In the small amount of research he did his conservative estimate is 2-4K but said he wouldn't be surprised with a final sale figure of 10-15K. I am waiting on Christie's & Sotheby's reply in 4-6 weeks.
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Which state do you live in ? I wouldn't choose Dumouchelles.
Personally don't think it would have been sold at both places but Coolings did exhibitions where it may have been on view - the A number top left could refer to that. I've catalogued museum collections and they all have similar numbers on them.
By the way, whilst looking at some paintings, i saw this. Absolutely wonderful
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20029/lot/20/ (http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20029/lot/20/)
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That is lovely. I live in Michigan. I sent online photos to Christie's and Sotheby's. Where do you suggest I sell the painting.
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Congrats on the good news there , corkysgold !
Always nice to see folks 'pickin' up' on a winner !!!
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That is lovely. I live in Michigan. I sent online photos to Christie's and Sotheby's. Where do you suggest I sell the painting.
I think Christie's in Chicago. They should respond favourably, especially given the ( partly ) local history.
Low estimates are excellent in places with good online exposure and also people attending. I think you can split bidders into three categories
a ) Wants a bargain
b ) Wants the item and agrees with the price
c ) wants the item full stop.
You need to have all three interested to exceed expectations and as auctions can become quite territorial, " alpha " bidders can sometimes go beyond the real value of an item simply to win the auction.
If Christie's like the labels on the back of this, i think you're in for a ride.
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corkysgold , you might wanna check the link below for free old & new hammer prices for Luigi's painting works .... gives you a clue about pricing & who's been/has been selling the works with best 'success' (price/location-wise) .
Seems to be quite a few there !
http://artsalesindex.artinfo.com/asi/results.action
Happy huntin' !!!
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Great to hear !! Just goes to show that treasures can still be found in the most unlikely places !!
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corkysgold , you might wanna check the link below for free old & new hammer prices for Luigi's painting works .... gives you a clue about pricing & who's been/has been selling the works with best 'success' (price/location-wise) .
Seems to be quite a few there !
http://artsalesindex.artinfo.com/asi/results.action
Happy huntin' !!!
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Thanks for the link, awesome site.