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Title: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 20, 2014, 12:59:37 pm
Ahoy there,

Anyone got an opinion on this postcard, My guess is a Russian circus bear but that's a total guess. Bought a massive collection of old postcards and ww2 photos etc.

Brent
Australia
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: KC on January 20, 2014, 01:11:31 pm
Why Russian?  What is on the flip side of the card?
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 20, 2014, 01:17:44 pm
I knew you would ask that haha, I will take a picture soon. It's your usual run of the mill vintage postcard, nothing written on it, in english. I don't know where I got that from, I just haven't seen bears like that anywhere else.
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: greenacres on January 20, 2014, 05:23:14 pm
That postcard could be very collectible. Circus RPPC's (real picture postcards) are what they are called. There many on several sites, such as, eBay, Ruby Lane and others. Are you selling this postcard?
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 20, 2014, 05:54:37 pm
real photo is how we describe them in the UK

Certain cards fetch ridiculous money.
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: regularjoe2 on January 20, 2014, 09:22:42 pm
No idea of actual origin of your card , Wulfe ....

used to be a 'thing' that folks did at 'roadside attractions/camps' (keeping captive bears) in the northern climes of Wisconsin & Minnesota (U.S.A.) , along with bear souvenirs & sometimes a soda machine where one could hold the bottle for the (caged) bear to drink .
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: KC on January 20, 2014, 09:31:06 pm
regularjoe2, can remember as a kid when a convertible came driving into town with a bear driving it!  The police pulled the car with the owner and his bear over.  Couldn't ticket him because there is not law that allows bears to get licenses!  It was funny!  (The guy actually had the car rigged so he could drive it all with his feet and small hand wheels low by the arm rests.)

Bears were a great big thing in the mid 1900's like regularjoe2 said.
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 20, 2014, 10:00:28 pm
Bears are still pretty big these days KC  :P
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: bigwull on January 20, 2014, 10:58:51 pm
I knew you would ask that haha, I will take a picture soon. It's your usual run of the mill vintage postcard, nothing written on it, in english. I don't know where I got that from, I just haven't seen bears like that anywhere else.
..You obviously havnae been tae Ibrox then.....for if ye had...you,d have seen thoosands o,bears..like this sorry excuse...of a bear....especially on a Seturday efternane....efter the match.... ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 21, 2014, 01:07:28 am
That story makes more sense! Wish there was more info attached to it. There were no notes scribbled on the back or anything

Closest thing to that we had back in the day here were bare knuckle kangaroo boxing haha'

Brent
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: bigwull on January 21, 2014, 01:42:53 am
regularjoe2, can remember as a kid when a convertible came driving into town with a bear driving it!  The police pulled the car with the owner and his bear over.  Couldn't ticket him because there is not law that allows bears to get licenses!  It was funny!  (The guy actually had the car rigged so he could drive it all with his feet and small hand wheels low by the arm rests.)

Bears were a great big thing in the mid 1900's like regularjoe2 said.
Bears are so cute.Ha...would,nt get me sticking my noggin in its mouth....

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/wrestling-a-grizzly-bear-in-my-garden/2ux3kwpz1
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 21, 2014, 02:11:29 am
Here is the back of the card. Am not sure if I'm going to sell to be honest. Never come across one like this before

Brent
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: greenacres on January 21, 2014, 11:05:56 am
Have you looked up Monty Co.? Maybe that's the circus. It looks like someones purchase from the circus, and they marked it on the back.
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 21, 2014, 11:27:57 am
I did have a brief look at that but didn't come up with anything, I have just found a great circus resource though so I will look into it further and update you guys if I find anything more.

thanks so much for your help! What a great community.


Brent
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 21, 2014, 11:29:47 am
I'd say Monty was the bear's name. There's reference on the net to real photo card of a bear called Monty standing on his back legs. Unfortunately can't see the card.

Monty - then " C. Co. " is possibly the location
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: bigwull on January 21, 2014, 11:38:01 am
Sorry, ...i,m not into chained up cubs...in fact i,ll go as far to say..this is animal cruelty ...and if looking at this gives you joy.....then...well .. :-X...i don,t want barred.....but If you want to see more pics like this...just go to Romania...then you can fill a book with ...young bears chained to posts...with iron rings through their noses, ..all in the name of tourist entertainment...
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: greenacres on January 21, 2014, 11:50:41 am
I happen to agree with BigWull! I just watched Black Fish don't get me started, lol.
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: sugarcube5419 on January 21, 2014, 01:26:22 pm
big wull it has the same effect as watching the animal cruelty on commercials.  Poor thing looks hungry and out of place. 
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 22, 2014, 01:22:01 pm
Black Fish was pretty full on.

I did some research. it's possible that those initials stand for C.R. Montgomery who had a circus in the mid 40s in Oregon. As I found the postcard in Oregon I guess that would make sense. I found the email address of his grand daughter and she said she will have a look at it and get back to me soon so fingers crossed. Otherwise I guess the Bear was named Monty haha
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: greenacres on January 22, 2014, 01:33:51 pm
Monty is a cute name for a bear. Maybe better than Yogi! ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 22, 2014, 01:40:55 pm
Haha! Totally agree!

Hopefully it checks out. If it is a circus Postcard, what would a realistic price be?
I think I paid $6 for it

Brent
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: greenacres on January 22, 2014, 02:26:03 pm
It's the old saying "it's worth what someone will pay for it." I have many antique postcards. Sellers may start the bids at $14.99 or $6.99. I have paid more than $50. For some. Some really good circus photos sellers will just ask $100. - $125.
Title: Re: Vintage Postcard ?
Post by: Wulfe on January 22, 2014, 02:29:52 pm
Interesting!

So the reason I see some go really high is just that the seller has put a high value on them.
I understand why tattooed ladies and all those go really high but being that it's just a bear in a chain I can't see it being that high haha. But looking into the story behind it has definitely made that $6 worthwhile for me.

Thanks for the advice Greenacres :)