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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: Zika_Mike on October 16, 2019, 07:32:27 pm
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Hello, new on here. My mom has sence past. But I was left with an antique food mill strainer, there is an impressioned swastika symbol on the top part that gets turned by hand.Just thought I'd mention it on here and see if its anything one might kept. Thanks for any ideas.
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Nice piece. I don't recall ever seeing one like that.
And "Yes", my opinion it is a "kitchen collectible".
And the "swastika" is a design that has been around a long, long time before the Nazi decided to use it.
Where are you located?
And ps, ….. a better picture of "logo" would help, …..
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I have only seen a few of these food mills/ricers from the early 1900's with the symbol on it. The symbol originally meaning "good fortune" is found on china, silver, linens, tapestries, etc. It was later adopted by the Nazis and the positive associations with the symbol and been overshadowed by that dark period in history.
Is it a collectible piece? Yes! Will people who are not "Nazi collectors" be interested? Yes, because it was before the symbol was adopted by the Nazis. Will you get rich from it? No...sorry. But it is in fact a wonderful piece of history reflecting the time and good will. A bit of history is noted here: https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/symbol-swastika-and-its-12000-year-old-history-001312 (https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/symbol-swastika-and-its-12000-year-old-history-001312)
A company noted for making these (with this symbol) was the Dilver Manufacturing Company in Pittsburgh. Not much is known of them but I have found reference to a owner's manual for a "Dilver Fruit Press/vegetable press/sieve/collander/ricer" which I believe is what you have. https://www.abebooks.com/paper-collectibles/Dilver-Promotional-Booklet-Fruit-Press-Vegetable/12485023906/bd (https://www.abebooks.com/paper-collectibles/Dilver-Promotional-Booklet-Fruit-Press-Vegetable/12485023906/bd) from 1912.
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KC, that was great info, thanks for posting it.
Now I will have to check my "kitchen collectibles" book to see if its therein.
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Here's an example on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-antique-early-TIN-DILVERT-FRUIT-MASHER-sifter-swastika-jam-jelly-HEAVY/312719668499?hash=item48cf8b7513:g:PhkAAOSwqLFdQjt0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-antique-early-TIN-DILVERT-FRUIT-MASHER-sifter-swastika-jam-jelly-HEAVY/312719668499?hash=item48cf8b7513:g:PhkAAOSwqLFdQjt0)
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Agree with everyone !! This is earlier than mine !! Great find !! Love kitchen collectables !!
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I better get with my eye doctor. For the life of me I can't see any "swastika" in any of these pictures. Help!
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Jondar,, they haven`t posted pics of the symbol itself yet !! I think Cogar asked if they would post them !!
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Not true! The swastika is imprinted into the metal on the top picture!
I have enlarged it and changed the picture tone to see it better (from the photo above.)
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The bottom of the food press needs a "steel wool" treatment ….. then a pencil "lead" dusting of the logo …… and another picture taken and posted. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I still can't make out the image of the logo. As was explained to me by a very old gentleman many years ago there is a difference between the
American Indian sign for "good fortune" or "good luck" and the "swastika" adopted by the Nazi Party.
The logo is composed by four "arms". In the Nazi version the top "arm" points to the right, the right "arm" points down, the bottom "arm" points to the left and the left "arm points upward.
In the Indian version all "pointing" is reversed. The only benefit of determining which version it is would be the "dating" of the item.
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I can`t get either pic to enlarge so I still can`t see it !!
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I can`t get either pic to enlarge so I still can`t see it !!
Mart; Try right-clicking on the address...below the picture. You should be able to open the image in a new page and then enlarge it.
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I did Rauville,, mine is still tiny !! Maybe I need stronger glasses !!
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jondar, this item was made in 1905 - 1912 time period. I have seen the arms several different ways from the late 1800's to early 1900's all American made items - before Hitler. AND....Hitler's swastika had a 45° rotation which the early ones did not have!
Here is a site that recaps some: https://relicrecord.com/blog/ancient-peaceful-history-swastika/ (https://relicrecord.com/blog/ancient-peaceful-history-swastika/)
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AND....Hitler's swastika had a 45° rotation which the early ones did not have!
Ah so, …. being embossed on the bottom of a round pot, that would be hard to determine iffen no other marks thereon. ::) ::)
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The company that made this was in existence prior to Hitler's time and was made in the USA. The ones representing Hitler were inside of a square or flag and would show that the symbol is rotated in relation to the square sides.
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The company that made this was in existence prior to Hitler's time and was made in the USA.
Well, …. maybe, ……. not quite ……... 8) 8)
A company noted for making these was the Dilver Manufacturing Company in Pittsburgh. owner's manual for a "Dilver Fruit Press/vegetable press/sieve/collander/ricer" which I believe is what you have. from 1912.
Adolf Hitler was born on 20 April 1889 in Braunau am Inn, a town in Austria-Hungary
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Hitler's time meaning that it was adopted as the Nazi swastika post 1920 (sorry but he didn't adopt it at birth!)
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Wellllllllll, …….. I just hadta post something. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Haha! That you did!
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Wellllllllll, …….. I just hadta post something. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Lol !! At least we can keep the conversation going !! Can`t we Cogar ??
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