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Title: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: williamsg on April 23, 2010, 06:33:18 am
Does anyone know what this thing is, and what I should offer it for? I am just looking for a home for it. It has matching steel canisters and mugs in it.               Well let's see if these pictures work
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 23, 2010, 06:51:53 am
Oh wow!!!  Have you come to the right place........taleso fthesevenseas only just finished turning her's into a beauty!!

http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=6351.0

What you have there is a hoosier cabinet (or bakers cabinet), here's a short description of what they are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier_cabinet

Tales and others will be able to advise you and point you in the right direction. Lots of info out there on them.
Great piece of history there, can't wait to see what else comes out of the barn.  ;)
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on April 23, 2010, 10:23:22 am
YUP! You've got a Hoosier style cabinet, yours is slightly later than mine if I'm not mistaken. What is the material on the counter top? Wood, zinc or porcelain? That will help to date it. Also check the back side to see if there is a manufacturer's sticker.

Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: KC on April 23, 2010, 02:49:29 pm
You have quite a nice piece of history as well as family history there.  Are you sure you want to part with it?
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: cogar on April 24, 2010, 05:53:39 am
Nice kitchen cabinet w/wood work surface, flour bin, spice rack and sugar jar (I think).

How about a picture of the matching canisters and mugs and showing any names or embossed lettering on them. (And I wished you had posted the pictures in the "upright" position because I was unable to upload and "rotate" them myself.)

That looks to be an "original" white cabinet and still in excellent condition, therefore I wouldn't do anything to it other than washing it off with soap & water. It should bring "top dollar" if you choose to sell it.

If the canisters and mugs are original to/with the cabinet then they are valuable in their own right, even if sold separately.
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 06:04:38 am
Let's bring these right side up........for those that don't have laptops ;)
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 06:06:31 am
The rest.......
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 06:27:00 am
A few ads for hoosiers from the 1920's...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/americanvintagehome/sets/72157608385212102/detail/


Great Q & A forum here for 'hoosier' owners looking for age/manufacturer, etc.......

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/hobart-in/TTQOHHCQKF92H0R1J
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: williamsg on April 24, 2010, 06:41:13 am
Thank you. Now I don't have to try and rotate the pictures. I am still learning. Did I mention I hate typing. Poor typing and spelling skills. We ex engineers only do numbers. I will have to go out and look for names and numbers. I will get more pictures. Yes I am reluctant to get rid of it. My wife says we have no room for it up north but I may just put it in the garage for now as a future project. The top looks like a red piece of linoleum. There are grooves in the open area behind the counter that looks like it was made for a roll top type closure. I think the sugar jar would have been in the way. Maybe the pieces were made for different cabinets. there were also different looking frying pans in it.(get more pictures) They look more like burner covers with handles.(thank god for spell check) I should say that what we call the barn is a garage with an end piece that we lived in, when I was little. We had an out house. Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 06:43:01 am
Ah ha!   Knew I had come across this before.......

http://www.hoosiercabinet.com/original-ads-for-cabinets.htm

This may help date/identify your.  ;)
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 06:48:31 am
It's likely it did have a roll top.  I went through a few hundred pics of cabinets and many of the ones similar in looks to
yours did have a roll top enclosing the middle area...........but you have actual GLASS doors!!  Not common to find especially
today, those that did have them originally likely lost most of the glass by now.  Ask Tales......she's already been on her glass
hunt.  ;)
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: cogar on April 24, 2010, 07:43:57 am
Thanks Sapphire, my Vista OS won't let me copy it or I don't know how. If I click "quote" on the post with the picture(s) it doesn't give a reference to them either.

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The top looks like a red piece of linoleum. There are grooves in the open area behind the counter that looks like it was made for a roll top type closure.


Then the counter is probably wood.

For a "roll-up" the grooves should be on either side of the opening and extend to the top and then curve toward the back of the cabinet and curve again toward the bottom. You can probably find someone to make you a "replacement" and then purchase the handle for it on-line.


 
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 07:48:24 am
Another I'd remembered coming across.....

http://www.hoosiercabinet.com/ShowUsYourHoosier.htm

Somewhere in all the pics I've seen there were also some that had two piece 'doors' that rolled to the sides and in out the way.

Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 07:50:04 am
Thanks Sapphire, my Vista OS won't let me copy it or I don't know how. If I click "quote" on the post with the picture(s) it doesn't give a reference to them either.

Gotta love my Mac !   ;) :D
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on April 24, 2010, 10:08:12 am
Yeah, I ended up ordering wavy antique glass for my cabinet off Ebay from a seller that was removing glass from old Victorians. To have the original glass intact is great!!

The roll-up that would have gone in the groves would be just like what you see on a roll top desk. It shouldn't be difficult to get a replacement cut to size. Maybe someone here would know if that would be obtained from a cabinet maker?

The counter top is interesting. I hadn't heard of one with linoleum. I know they started with wood, like mine, then went to zinc, then to porcelain coated after finding out that zinc was unhealthy as a food prep surface. Can you see what it is made of by looking at the underside when it is in the pulled forward position?

I sure hope when your wife sees how desirable/collectible/valuable these old Hoosiers are, that it will be more than garage decor!

Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on April 24, 2010, 10:46:30 am
Is there any brand name sticker on the back? Or maybe a little metal plaque?" I looked through the old ads and found some very similar 1920's McDougal and Sellers brand ones, but none exactly like yours. I also saw one branded "Border Queen" that was similar.

One question about the flour bin- Is there glass looking into the bin, so that you can see the level of the flour in it, or are we looking at the tin side of the flour bin through glass? I'm not seeing anything like in the other examples, but yours sure LOOKS 100% original. I don't think the glass was added later, but wonder if it could have been? So many of them had thin wood in the doors that warped. Can you take a look inside the cabinets at how the glass is mounted to see if it looks consistent with the rest of the cabinet, or if it might have been a later addition?

Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: KC on April 24, 2010, 12:31:09 pm
Agree sapphire - Love my Mac!  We have 6 of them in our family - they don't get viruses - they are awesome!  Having a son in the movie animation industry who insisted I learn it and change over (after a couple of years of nagging - teaching an old dog new tricks) I am ecstatic.  I also have Parallels (a Mac with a PC option to it for applications that I need a PC for).

This cabinet is nice and extra special in that it does look pretty much original!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: cogar on April 25, 2010, 04:13:43 am
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I hadn't heard of one with linoleum. One question about the flour bin- Is there glass looking into the bin, so that you can see the level of the flour in it, or are we looking at the tin side of the flour bin through glass?

Tales, the linoleum covers were affixed to the work surface top by the owners themselves. One can find a lot of old kitchen tables that have been refurbished in the same manner. 

And looking at the 2nd photo that Sapphire posted I believe the tin portion of the flour bin is permanently affixed to the door and thus the glass is to permit one to see the amount of flour in the bin.

It would not have been a good thing if the cook ran out of flour because bread was usually baked fresh for every meal. And the misses didn't have a car to quickly run to the store to get another 10 lb or 25 lb  sack of flour.

I remember my mother baking at least one (1) pan of biscuits for bout every meal. And she had a "trick" for hurridly doing it. A large stoneware bowl that she always kept about half-full of flour and when she wanted to make biscuits she would take her fist and wallow out a depression in the flour, pour in the buttermilk and a dash of baking powders and start mixing it around with her fingers until she had a perfect ball of dough, lift it out and onto the counter where she would roll it out and cut the biscuits out and into the greased pan and into the oven. And I betcha it didn't take her much more that 5 minutes to do that. Maybe 8 minutes if one counted the time it took to put a big spoon of lard in the pan and onto the stove to heat it up.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: sapphire on April 25, 2010, 04:20:07 am
Before I head to work, played with it a bit.

Shows up a heck of a lot bigger on my screen  :-\


Edited to add.......don't mind me, forgot it enlarges....... doing a back to back and I'm not awake yet.
Title: Re: My mothers old kitchen cabinet
Post by: cogar on April 25, 2010, 05:03:07 am
Ha, that's why I'm highly dependent on that 1st cup of coffee.

Just click on the 2nd picture in Reply #6, and the enlarged view shows it quite plainly.