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Title: info needed
Post by: emconn22 on April 23, 2010, 08:34:37 pm
I have an oil painting that has been passed down to me from my father who passed away in 2005.

The only info I have is that it is a picture of the Bavarian mountains (with water at the bottom) that was where Hitler later built his summer home.

It was brought here from Germany by my grandfather - it was hidden in the walls so that the Nazi's would not confiscate it during their raids for valuables to support the war.

It does have a small hole in it & I brought it to be cleaned & repaired shortly after my dad died, but since they said the signature was illegible & could not determine the value, I should leave it alone.

If anyone has any info, please let me know.
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: sapphire on April 23, 2010, 08:48:11 pm
emconn22, if you could post pics please ? That will give members more to go on......front, back and a shot of the signature would
be ideal. 
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: KC on April 23, 2010, 11:18:01 pm
Welcome.

Pic please so that we can attempt to help you!  Look forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: cogar on April 24, 2010, 06:09:10 am
I don't believe I have ever heard of an "illegible signature".  ??? ???
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Post by: Skinny on April 24, 2010, 01:38:35 pm
I don't believe I have ever heard of an "illegible signature".  ??? ???

You've never seen mine then have you? :D
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: emconn22 on April 24, 2010, 06:03:50 pm
these are the best i can do right now - thank you for all of your help - E
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: KC on April 24, 2010, 06:15:56 pm
Sure looks like A Bunmitter or Bunwitter.
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Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 07:44:26 pm
Don't know if it will show up here but the last four letters look like 'ttey' preceded by one or two i's (at least to me ......and I'm
tired)  ;)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/geeziesmom/paintingsignature.jpg)
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: sapphire on April 24, 2010, 07:56:11 pm
emconn, would that be Lake Chiemsee? And is the painting oil or watercolor?

(Sorry.....really have to read when I'm awake :P  Reread the original and see the 'oil'.)
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: waywardangler on April 24, 2010, 08:27:01 pm
I'm thinking there is an umlaut there and this may be a German name.  Bumüller perhaps?
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: cogar on April 25, 2010, 04:24:04 am
I don't believe I have ever heard of an "illegible signature".  ??? ???

You've never seen mine then have you? :D

A bad critique I guess, what would an "illegible signature" have to do with getting it cleaned and repaired if said was expertly done? ??? 
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: sapphire on April 25, 2010, 04:28:28 am
I'm thinking there is an umlaut there and this may be a German name.  Bumüller perhaps?

Good call wayward!  Was wondering why it was looking like ' ii ' .  ;)
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: emconn22 on April 25, 2010, 05:37:15 am
I was told not to clean it or do anything to it until I found out who the artist was because it would effect the value if it was worth anything.
Title: Re: info needed
Post by: regularjoe2 on April 25, 2010, 11:38:39 am
Welcome to the forum , emconn22 .

In my experience(s) with more than 1k oil paintings I've purchased , not one was adversely affected in value by cleaning (those that were 'properly' cleaned , that is) ... matter of fact , it usually brings out hidden details that were concealed by 'soiling' on the painting .

Framing elements (wood,etc.) can be harmful to your painting , and I'd suggest you use some "acid-free" products to protect your canvas from them (there's some 'tapes' that are used to line the interior of wood frames) .

Other concerns could be those of molds/fungus in/on the canvas (often can be seen on the back of the canvas) .

The fact that you've mentioned the existence of a hole in the painting reflects , to me , a specific area that could be damaged by cleaning , however .

I'm not advocating that you get out some cleaning supplies & 'do-it-yourself' , though .
Cleaning oil paintings can be a very delicate process , depending on the condition of any given painting & all of the elements of the canvas & stretchers & such .


Nice little oil painting , emconn22 .