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Antique Questions Forum / Re: 1916 DWM German Luger numbermatching (photos inside)

« on: January 26, 2010, 07:48:30 pm »

The vast majority of the pistols were stamped with a four-digit serial number. This number cycle was repeated monthly by the various arsenals, thus making it possible to have between 250 and 300 pistols bearing the same serial number. Distinguishing factors making the identification of each pistol unique are the alpha letter appearing beneath or following the serial number; the year of manufacture; and the individual arsenal/code markings on each pistol. The serial number, always stamped on the frame, may also appear on the receiver and barrel. If the serial numbers don't match, this indicates the pistol was assembled from parts of several pistols. The last two digits of the original serial number may appear in several places on the gun as a parts number. Sometimes the same serial number will be stamped in multiple places on the gun, but will only include the letter suffix below the barrel, ahead of the trigger guard.  From http://www.olive-drab.com/od_other_firearms_pistol_luger.php3

I guess the repeating 367 and 67 all over the gun makes sense .. and under the barrel and above the trigger gard as the above paragraph states is "367R"  Im not sure what I can learn from that fact but ill run with it...

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: 1916 DWM German Luger numbermatching (photos inside)

« on: January 26, 2010, 05:24:57 pm »

"Gesichert" identifies the safety mechanism.  There ought to be a date over the chamber.  The frontstrap marking is for the person the gun was issued to.

The full serial number appears on the front of the grip frame just above the trigger guard. If there is a letter below the number, it is part of the serial number (e.g., 1234 b would be the serial number, not just 1234).

Good sites are http://www.lugerforum.com/

The date is 1916

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: 1916 DWM German Luger numbermatching

« on: January 26, 2010, 02:35:01 pm »

Very nice gun. If your grand dad is still around I bet he could tell some great stories. In Judith Miller's 2004 Antique Price Guide there is a German Luger, made by DWM, in 9mm caliber with original holster, marked Gesichert
and dated 1921 with an estimated value of $700-$1,000.

Wow cool .. yeah he would ahve some stories im sure of it .. I dont see many of the 1916 models on these forums . I wonder how rare they are

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: 1916 German Luger numbermatching

« on: January 26, 2010, 01:44:26 pm »

that looks really nice. don't try to clean it up with any type of abraisive. doing some searches. now.

Cool thanks ..  I wouldnt clean it at all !!

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Antique Questions Forum / 1916 DWM German Luger numbermatching (photos inside)

« on: January 26, 2010, 01:18:34 pm »

Been going thru my grandads stuff .. figured you guys could tell me more about this Luger .. Grandad was a tank commander, and he took this off of a dead German ... Appreciate any info you guys can give me .. how rare?  worth ? History ? .. thanks alot

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 24, 2010, 08:40:49 am »

Thanks Chris for the stop over. I do believe Rockwart is written in french in this case. which would make us believe it's french rather then German.

Interesting thought

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 24, 2010, 04:22:32 am »

Wow....almost speechless....wow!

What an amazing find!  Hope you hold on to this!  It will only continue to rise in value!!!!

Highly recomment that whatever you know of your grandfathers/family's history with this that you document it.  In addition, any information you currently find on this...print it and keep it with the items -  for you/your family.

For sure .. I have all of his army information ... I also have his purple heart and several other medals .. bronze or silver star is the other one .. I have to go thru other stuff. I also found out yesterday that my Aunt has even more toys like this one at her place in Dallas .. Im going to get her to send me pics as well to share with everyone. thanks again guys

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 24, 2010, 04:20:29 am »

AHHH .. great info there as well my man .. thanks

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 23, 2010, 05:04:57 pm »

Incredible info guys .. thanks again .. Ill send in pics of the officers Luger and sword that was taken by my grandad as well .. and the wooden tanks .. unreal stuff on here . .thanks

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 23, 2010, 04:08:50 pm »

I actually do have the spare t ires and fenders ... and for the other person the other boxes had wooden tanks in it ..... not sure about them yet

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 23, 2010, 11:01:14 am »

Thanks alot guys .. im putting a post at the forum link yall gave me .. thanks alot ! !

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Antique Questions Forum / WWII Half Track Rockwarts Gang (PHOTOS INSIDE)

« on: January 23, 2010, 06:49:58 am »

I was going thru some of my granddads stuff from WWII .. I found a few wooden boxes .. some with wood tanks and another that had a Rockwarts Gang half track .. it is in perfect condition. . you can even wind it up .. it has head lights on it and everything .. it has about 6 to 8 soilders in it all with their guns and everything .. Upon further research I found out my granddad had sent it from Nazi germany while he was there.. He was a tank commander.. Im not sure if anyone will know about it .. I am including pictures of it .. there is still a stamp on one of the seats that tells you what it is .. anyone have any ideas ?