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ok, thanks Ipcress.

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Thanks Ipcress. Yes, I know the N is for silver plate, I just wasn't sure if it was over brass or bronze since Michal Czajkowski was a bronzesmith prior to 1856 when he formed the company with Juliusz Henneberg as Henneberg & Czajkowski.

Although the candlestick you have a link to at liveauctions is similar, that candlestick was made between 1887 and 1894 and made by "B. Henneberg Warsaw" (Brothers Henneberg) and has an eight petal rosette in the center not the maker mark with "Czajkowski" in the center like mine which was used between 1862 and 1872, 15 years prior when Czajkowski last worked at and left the company.

I have not been able to find any actual example images of the maker mark I have for Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski "N" "BCIA HENNEBERG i" "CZAJKOWSKI" "WARSZAWA" "GALW:" which was used  between 1862 and 1872 anywhere.

Here's a link to another similar one but again it's B.Henneberg Warszaw it's circa 1890 ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Silver-Plated-Shabbat-Candlesticks-B-Henneberg-Warszawa-Poland-c-1890-/111904273337?hash=item1a0e03b3b9%3Ag%3AyikAAOSwwE5WXl3f&nma=true&si=pM8Z%252FN%252B4dQhfAlZN9U%252BA2ZUyu1Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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Antique Questions Forum / Antique Sabbath Warsaw Poland Candlesticks?
« on: March 07, 2016, 07:20:05 pm »
Ok, so yesterday I'm walking through the TS looking around for things and I happen to notice this pair of what looks like old candlesticks. Usually, when I see these type of candlesticks with the brass and patina they turn out to be new and made to look old. But, in this case they actually did look old so I picked them up and went over and sat down on a couch and gave them a closer look with my loop (I never leave home without a jewelers loop).

After examining the candlesticks closer I was sure they were old so I turn them over to look for a maker mark which I found under some dark patina. After a quick thumb rub of the patina I made out a maker mark which I looked at closer with the loop and could make out "Henneberg" "Czajkowski" and "Warszawa". Once I read the maker mark I was certain they were at least late 1800's candlesticks. The price was very reasonable and they were priced separately and way within the range of Mart's *Scream Price* so I went ahead and purchased them along with a couple of other items. The candlesticks measure about 11 1/2" in height and about 4 3/4" in width at the base of the candlestick and look to have been silver plated over brass or bronze.

So I looked them up online and was able to find out they were made by Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski (formally Henneberg & Czajkowski 1856 - 1862) sometime between 1862 and 1872. Michal Czajkowski left the company in 1872 after which time the company was called Bros. Henneberg. I was able to find a lot of candlesticks made after 1872 by Bros. Henneberg but have not been able to find any maker marks which have just "Henneberg & Czajkowski" for any items during the time the company was founded by Juliusz Henneberg and Michal Czajkowski in 1856 to 1862 after which time his brother joined the company. The company name Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski (Bracia Henneberg i Czajkowski in Polish) was active in 1862 when Juliusz Henneberg's brother Wilhelm joined the company until 1872 when Czajkowski left the company.

The other thing is the maker mark these candlesticks have which I cannot find anywhere for any of Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski items or any of their items themselves from 1862 - 1872. Has anyone seen this maker mark somewhere before or heard of them? The mark that I read is "N" "BCIA HENNEBERG i" "CZAJKOWSKI" "WARSZAWA" "GALW:". The N is in a Diamond and the "BCIA" I think is an abbreviation for "Brothers", please correct me if I'm wrong with "BCIA" being an abbreviation. There also looks like there could be a number or something else above "CZAJKWSKI" but I can't make it out. I suspect this may be a rare mark.

Now, if you're still following me on this one, I've seen a lot of references to the Brothers Henneberg later candlesticks referred to as "Sabbath Candlesticks", would this pair of candlesticks also be considered "Sabbath Candlesticks.

Thanks!
Kevin

P.S. You can click on the image to view a larger detailed view of the image (for those who don't already know this).

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Age of old Antique Masonic Pin
« on: March 05, 2016, 06:46:04 pm »
Thanks KC, could be early 1900, difficult to get an exact time period on this one. I do like the elements on it with the trowel, square ruler, drafting compass and  the Eye of Providence. Yes, would have been nice to have the clasp on it. A collector would also like to have had it on it although, it's my guess a collector of these types of pins would still love to have this one the way it is.

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Age of old Antique Masonic Pin
« on: March 05, 2016, 10:34:55 am »
Thanks Ipcress, yes, I'm thinking old Victorian era C clasp. I think it's probably 10k Gold, haven't tested it yet. Where it's broken on the barrel part of the clasp looks to be made out of solid gold. Yes, old gold that hasn't been cleaned can get dark spots on it in areas for lots of reasons and many people will not think it's gold because it's not shiny. These dark areas can usually be easily cleaned up if desired.

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Antique Questions Forum / Age of old Antique Masonic Pin
« on: March 05, 2016, 12:21:07 am »
I got this masonic pin out of a grab bag at the TS and I'm trying to figure out how old it is. The pin is about 1" in length and the pin portion of it on the back is broken off but it looks like an older style. It's my guess it's mid to late 1800's. Does anyone know how old this masonic pin might be?

Thanks!
Kevin

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Vintage Chinese Dragon Pill Box
« on: March 02, 2016, 07:32:33 pm »
Thanks Mart, could be! Seems like that "O" word is there again, "O" no!! And things go in 3's. :o

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This came in an edition of 925 signed copies. Value can be anywhere from $15 to $300, depending on condition. With the condition issues associated with your copy, I'd say it's worth $10-$20.

Really? Even with the significance of what was written including the signature of the person who wrote it and to whom he wrote it? Hmm.... I would agree that the book alone without it including the preceding in it's current condition may bring that price. Certainly James Carleton Young the "King of Books" autograph with what was written, his personal card, the book and Thomas S. Roberts. M.D as the recipient would command better value.

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Vintage Chinese Dragon Pill Box
« on: March 02, 2016, 12:54:04 pm »
OK, thanks KC, I totally understand. Thanks for looking at the post and the reply!
Kevin

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Antique Questions Forum / Vintage Chinese Dragon Pill Box
« on: March 02, 2016, 01:08:04 am »
This is a vintage Chinese dragon pill or trinket box I purchased yesterday at the TS that is gold gilded over a copper base with a cloisonne inside and an enamel finish on the top with a gold gilded dragon on it. I've searched for a similar one and have not been able to locate one like it.

The pill box measures about 1 5/8" in width, 1 1/8" in depth and about 1/2" in height. On the bottom of it there is a stamp with what looks like a "9 S" or a "S 6" with the "S" having a fork or "y" in it at the top or bottom depending how you look at it.

Does anyone know what the "9 S" or "S 6" means, where the box was made and about how old it might be or anything else?

Thanks!
Kevin

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Does the Roycroft connection add much to the value?

Rauville, I'm not sure although I think I've seen a few Roycroft copies out there.

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Thanks Ipcress! I had read up on T. S. Roberts prior to making this post but I didn't make the connection between ornithology and the 2 men but now that you point that out there is a very good possibility that is what J. C. Young was referring to when he said "Guardian" in the book.

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Here's a few images references below of James Carleton Young.

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Here's an interesting book I purchased at the TS yesterday that I thought I would share. The Book is named "The Opium Eater" Confessions of an Opium-Eater, by Tomas De Quincey. This book edition or revision was published in 1898 as dated in the book.

The Book is signed by James Carleton Young to T.S. Roberts (Thomas S. Roberts. M.D.) and seems to be in appreciation and is dated Dec 25, 1905. The book also had inside of it the personal card of James Carleton Young as seen in the image below. This book may have been a gift to his doctor for Christmas but I'm not positive since James Carleton Young states in the message in the book "Guardian of the lives of those I love best". Although, the nature of this book and the content of this book may be if interest to a doctor.

James Carleton Young had a very eventful life and made a fortune in Real Estate during the Later part of the 1800's. He used this fortune to create a Huge Book Library containing tens of thousands of books and autographs. In 1902 the Paris Figaro christened him "King of Books" and in 1910 he was decorated by the French Republic with the Cross off the Legion of Honor as mentioned in articles.

The book does have condition issues with the spine being mostly separated from the book and foxing of the paper. I'm including some images below, some with image references.

I have no idea of the value or significance of the book with the signature and being given as a gift to presumably his guardian or doctor. Does anyone know what this book may be worth.

Thanks!
Kevin

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Identifying this dish
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:21:29 am »
Looks like a Japanese Imari plate to me. Try doing a search on Imari plate and you will see a lot of them.

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