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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: September 03, 2013, 04:23:58 pm »
HaHa I only get really bad when i know im talking to a fellow Scots, especially when there are Englishmen about i like to confuse them 
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: September 02, 2013, 06:21:56 pm »
Aye wull its got a few nice wee shops, far too many hairdressers though! must be the best groomed area in Scotland wi the amount they huv, always thought a antique/small auction house would do well down here, 12 hairdressers/barbers/stylist and a dog salon yet try finding a place to buy a watch wits that aboot?, They must be all puntin this end and needin to clean their cash lol
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: September 02, 2013, 05:24:31 pm »
aye the steelmen all the way! been glued to sky sports news all day today, this early close transfer window in Scotland is a bit bizarre! & although I did live in Maryhill for a year I moved quick sharp back home to Uddingston, I prefer walking down the street and people saying hello rather than walking down the street and getting a Glasgow kiss 
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: September 02, 2013, 04:51:16 pm »
Yea from what iv heard/seen they would be very well suited to state side, their seems to be a huge market over the pond, I think unfortunately there is not as large a market in the UK but again I may be wrong and they would could do well.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: September 02, 2013, 04:09:34 pm »
Hi mart, I only sent him the train one via email, but i did however give him the link to this forum so he will perhaps give it a read and see the other ones.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: September 02, 2013, 03:54:09 pm »
Hi Guys,
I received an email from a helpful chap named Jim, so you were correct in saying the signs are not of great age.
he wrote:
Dave,
A couple of these have appeared recently. They have no historic value but as you say they are quite decorative and ideal for pubs restaurants etc.
As far as the sign is concerned the style depicts a train from the 1830's. It is not strictly accurate but it gives a fair impression. The South Eastern and Chatham Railway was not formed until 1899.
The red (purple lake) colour of the background is fairly close to the colour of carriages on the SECR and the gold or yellow lettering is in a 19th century style. I have attached part of a genuine sign from the late 19th century so you can compare the style.
I don't know when they were made or by whom but they are fairly modern. If you find out I would be interested to know. You say you found 5 signs. Were they all identical? Different railways perhaps?
IF you found the right outlet I would think the sign should fetch £200+ as a decorative piece. It has size on its side!
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So a nice bit of extra info on the train one, I can take to the local appraiser in Glasgow, I still don't know what i want to do with them yet. sell and go hunting for the next piece or enjoy them for a bit longer...
I received an email from a helpful chap named Jim, so you were correct in saying the signs are not of great age.
he wrote:
Dave,
A couple of these have appeared recently. They have no historic value but as you say they are quite decorative and ideal for pubs restaurants etc.
As far as the sign is concerned the style depicts a train from the 1830's. It is not strictly accurate but it gives a fair impression. The South Eastern and Chatham Railway was not formed until 1899.
The red (purple lake) colour of the background is fairly close to the colour of carriages on the SECR and the gold or yellow lettering is in a 19th century style. I have attached part of a genuine sign from the late 19th century so you can compare the style.
I don't know when they were made or by whom but they are fairly modern. If you find out I would be interested to know. You say you found 5 signs. Were they all identical? Different railways perhaps?
IF you found the right outlet I would think the sign should fetch £200+ as a decorative piece. It has size on its side!
...
So a nice bit of extra info on the train one, I can take to the local appraiser in Glasgow, I still don't know what i want to do with them yet. sell and go hunting for the next piece or enjoy them for a bit longer...
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: August 30, 2013, 07:04:40 pm »
Cheers Bigwull,Haha, who would support one of those magnets of corruption? Claret and Amber run through these vain's!
Claret and Amber run through these vain's!
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Amazing Chance Meeting Results in a Special Piece of History
« on: August 30, 2013, 05:33:49 pm »
Awsome story a lottery win in itself!
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: August 30, 2013, 05:13:36 pm »
Hi KC, Im from Glasgow, Scotland
I sent an email to Sotheby's (Edinburgh office) today, so Im curious to see what info they can give and hopefully get a rough guide as to the value of them, who knows maybe im sitting on a wee winner and I can completely redesign and rebuild my man cave!
I will post If i get any reply's back.
I sent an email to Sotheby's (Edinburgh office) today, so Im curious to see what info they can give and hopefully get a rough guide as to the value of them, who knows maybe im sitting on a wee winner and I can completely redesign and rebuild my man cave!
I will post If i get any reply's back.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: August 30, 2013, 08:33:40 am »
Ah right, so I think you are right about the plaster moulds, so the balloon one wouldnt be as old as i originally thought the ransome and sim and the trains would likely be wood glued together but would the majority of pieces be hand carved?
& would that make them a lot newer than I was originally hoping? (I take it the older the sign/poster the more valuable it would be?)
The Dickens guy is holding what looks like a wee glass (it didnt show up very well on the pics) at least that is what it looks like, however it may have been something that has broken off in the past, he is holding his hat on his left hand so im thinking it must have been hair if something were supposed to be there, i will look closer at it after work.
I still think they are pretty cool so if they have no real value I will stick to the original plan and just hang them up. (except that Dickens one! haha) I got them for free anyway so its not as if i have been ripped off.
Thanks again
& would that make them a lot newer than I was originally hoping? (I take it the older the sign/poster the more valuable it would be?)
The Dickens guy is holding what looks like a wee glass (it didnt show up very well on the pics) at least that is what it looks like, however it may have been something that has broken off in the past, he is holding his hat on his left hand so im thinking it must have been hair if something were supposed to be there, i will look closer at it after work.
I still think they are pretty cool so if they have no real value I will stick to the original plan and just hang them up. (except that Dickens one! haha) I got them for free anyway so its not as if i have been ripped off.
Thanks again
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Old wooden signs
« on: August 29, 2013, 03:53:31 pm »
Company history for Ransome & Sims
1850 - Ransomes & Sims, open London Office
1851 - Charles May leaves & Later starts Brown and May in Devizes.
1869 - Ransomes Sims & Head, (Also Ransomes & Rapier formed by agreement by 4 of firms engineers, takes over the rail components business)
So im hoping this one was made between 1850 - 1869
1850 - Ransomes & Sims, open London Office
1851 - Charles May leaves & Later starts Brown and May in Devizes.
1869 - Ransomes Sims & Head, (Also Ransomes & Rapier formed by agreement by 4 of firms engineers, takes over the rail components business)
So im hoping this one was made between 1850 - 1869