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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Minton China Turq & Blue #S323 help ID age by the mark on bottom

« on: February 19, 2014, 07:00:33 pm »

Very helpful information thank you.  I will check this weekend.
The set I believe consists of mostly plates, cups and vegetable bowl.  I did not see any accessory items tea pots, etc.

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Minton China Turq & Blue #S323 help ID age by the mark on bottom

« on: February 18, 2014, 01:20:48 pm »

Thank you for the note.
I don't have access to the set.  Can you tell me what kind of impression mark to look for? 
Also, is there a price guide I should use for these?  She has a price of $250 in mind but I am not sure it may be low.  Then in today's market one never knows.

Thanks,
Lulu

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Antique Questions Forum / Minton China Turq & Blue #S323 help ID age by the mark on bottom

« on: February 18, 2014, 08:14:48 am »

Hello,

I have a client that wants some help selling a 63 piece place setting of Minton Bone China.  It is the Ardmore Ivory Turquoise and Blue pattern #S323.  I have read sites on identifying the Minton marks but I don't find the one on this set.  I have dated the crown, globe, laurel leafs, and Made In England to 1912-1950.  But there is a ribbon under the laurels with ARDMORE stamped in it and MADE IN ENGLAND is curved under the ribbon edge.  Can you help ID the time frame this china is from?

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Lulu

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 15, 2014, 01:20:21 pm »

The amethyst one was what tipped off the lady from the UK.  Because of its size, and yes the name on the side was the other tip.  I would imagine they see a lot more of these than we do being so close to tourist industry and Bohemian country side.  The price you picked is exactly what I chose to go for.  I give discounts on my website for multiple purchases so hopefully the will sell.

That was a very invigorating experience!!

Cheers!

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 14, 2014, 07:53:02 am »

Hello,
I thought I would write back to say I resolved the "nut cup" question.  I was on a board for glass collectors from the UK.  I figured if I couldn't find any information then I need to try a shot across the pond!  It appears these little pretties are simply souvenir cups and still made today.  Basically what I have learned is this:
They are probably Bohemian made, with a technique used called "raised enamel and gold" (if they were Italian made they would be turbo furoco), the gold is probably 24k (she said almost always gold building is 24k), each layer would have required an annealing round (to heat up and cool slowly process), the producer over the years has been Egermann and the responder to my question said he would not be surprised if it was Egermann manufactured.  Similar items have been around since 1880's.  Unfortunately, in collectors terms they are not considered valuable.

That last part he did not expound on so I have no idea on a price point.   Anyone have any thoughts on a price?  I have one on my website, RefreshedForYou.  They are very lovely when they are all polished and displayed.

Thanks for your help.

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 09, 2014, 09:28:17 pm »

I just weighed them.  They vary between 43 to 68 grams each and the 2 plum mini jugs each weigh 100/101 grams (between 0.24 to 0.37 oz.). So they are hand blown.
They are interesting when you look into them in the  light.  They look transparent in the light but they are gold when seen on a table.

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 09, 2014, 09:18:42 pm »

I didn't show it before because I didn't know I had it on the other cups in my basement.  I assumed they were all the same.  But I went to get them this afternoon and found 8 more cups and the 2 plum/purple mini jar with gold handle as I noted in previous post.  What does Vienna mean to you?

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 09, 2014, 01:34:15 pm »

I have 2 more pictures.  I went to the basement to check the other cups I have and found 8 more AND 2 little purple and gold with enamel flower jugs!
One of the cups did have a name on it, WIEN, written in gold.  I also just spoke to the lady that gave these to me and she said they came from her friends estate sale.  She thought they were from Austria as she traveled there.  And that they were from the victorian era.

Hope this helps to ID these lovely items!

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 09, 2014, 01:05:13 pm »

I will wait and confirm as you suggest before I post these lovelies on my website.  I do see with a magnifying glass that there is a faint pontil mark on the bottom.  I will check the others.

How would I get them appraised?  Who would I look for?  Would a jeweler be able to weigh the gold?  The pictures were taken with a super macro lens so you don't see the great detail with the naked eye as the photos show.  They are beautiful.  The raised gold trim is actually textured and the other gold around it is smooth overlay.  The cranberry color almost looks like a painted on wash.  Not like flashed paint but a color that is in the glass itself.  Does that sound right?

I now see many on the internet but none that have the gold overlay and enamel flowers.  Price seems to be up in the air still.

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 09, 2014, 12:11:45 pm »

Wow you fellow antique lovers are too cool!  Great idea about the spittoon I will definitely check out those links!  Oh dear, do I dare share this with her ~

I have 8 of them in a set to sell, where would you recommend a price point?

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 08, 2014, 07:38:35 pm »

I have to give you measurements.  The top edge measures 2 1/4" x 1 3/4" tall. I have 8 in a set.  The lady said they were bought for a time when they used "nut cups" at the dining table.  I will venture a guess of 1950ish.  Does that help?

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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 08, 2014, 06:50:34 pm »

Thank you for your reply. I agree it doesn't meet the high quality of Moser.  She said it was a nut cup but I find none online for any manufacturer.  Any suggestion on time period?

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Antique Questions Forum / Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel

« on: February 08, 2014, 04:49:00 pm »

The attachments show what was told to me to be a "nut cup."  It looks like what I see in the Bohemian glassware category  but the color is pink and it is very thin coat so that you can see very well through it.  The top half is thick gold with 3 enamel forget me not flowers and leaves painted on the gold (blue, yellow, and purple flowers). 

There are no markings to help me identify it.  I have asked other antique dealers I work with but they have never seen anything like it.  I have searched the internet, Ruby Lane, Kovels, even Ebay and not come across anything identified as a "nut cup."

The woman that gave it to me said it was used for fine dining when she held dinner parties and that it was old.  She was a long time collector.  I am not able to ask her for details.

I have searched and think it is close if not part of Moser Bohemian Cranberry glassware.   

Any help is greatly appreciated.