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Antique Questions Forum / Re: costume jewelry ring
« on: October 26, 2014, 03:49:49 am »Pretty sure it's "Agate"
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Pretty sure it's "Agate"
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: New or Old and What is It?(:
« on: October 26, 2014, 03:43:37 am »You know...
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that this is a male bed-pan...
Haven't found any images (of one like this) on Goog's, but plenty of references that pewter was a common metal for these (ahem) items...
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: W H Goss...
« on: September 13, 2014, 02:47:15 am »
Hi KC...
Yes, of course... I concur with all you are saying...
I've been collecting Goss since the 70's. Have (accidentally) broken a small number, but never sold any. I'm a past member of Goss-Collectors Club. Members there still have a high regard for even the most mundane Goss porcelain. I'm sure I read somewhere that 90% of all the Goss Crested porcelain items bought before 1924-ish had been thrown out because people's interest had waned...
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be..!!!
Yes, of course... I concur with all you are saying...
I've been collecting Goss since the 70's. Have (accidentally) broken a small number, but never sold any. I'm a past member of Goss-Collectors Club. Members there still have a high regard for even the most mundane Goss porcelain. I'm sure I read somewhere that 90% of all the Goss Crested porcelain items bought before 1924-ish had been thrown out because people's interest had waned...
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be..!!!
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Antique Questions Forum / W H Goss...
« on: September 09, 2014, 06:45:00 am »There was a time when WH Goss "Crested Porcelain" were collectable (investment) items...
We started collecing "Goss" in the 1970's and it was quite trade-able then...
But it seems to have lost favour nowadays...
Why is that..??
Especially 2nd-Period-Pieces.
Some (most) pieces are superbly-made porcelain miniatures with equally-superb hand-crafted "crests"...
With most of them over 100 years old... True Antiques...
So why has the bottom fallen out of the market..??
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Majolica jardiniere: Real or fake?
« on: August 14, 2014, 07:32:51 am »Here's an informative guide to guessing whether your Majolica piece is authentic or repro/ripoff:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Majolica-A-Guide-to-the-Authentic-Repros-Fakes-/10000000001231695/g.html
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Help Identifying Great Grandmothers Fine China Plate
« on: August 13, 2014, 05:11:46 am »Good researching there Rauville...
There are a number of pics of Napoleon with long hair...
Here's something intriguing though:
These very similar plates pictured below are by Victoria Porcelain - Schmidt & Co. / Austria / Circa: 1891-1918
There is no doubt re the similarity of the rim patterns.
I don't have time atm to go into this further. But your plate may be a Victoria Porcelain by Schmidt - or may be a reproduction.
Repro's/Ripoffs can occur in the art/antique world - and I'd be sceptical of the spelling "Bonabarte"
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Help Identifying Great Grandmothers Fine China Plate
« on: August 13, 2014, 05:10:30 am »Good researching there Rauville...
There are a number of pics of Napoleon with long hair...
Here's something intriguing though:
These very similar plates pictured below are by Victoria Porcelain - Schmidt & Co. / Austria / Circa: 1891-1918
There is no doubt re the similarity of the rim patterns.
I don't have time atm to go into this further. But your plate may be a Victoria Porcelain by Schmidt - or may be a reproduction.
Repro's/Ripoffs can occur in the art/antique world - and I'd be sceptical of the spelling "Bonabarte"
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Illinois hunter pocket watch
« on: August 13, 2014, 04:23:20 am »Here's the info on the serial number
http://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/illinois/1199641/movement
There are some Illinois Hunter pocket watches on sale on ebay. You can get an estimate of it's potential value there.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: ceramic bowl
« on: August 13, 2014, 03:12:49 am »
Hi There...
This is a "Fenton" plate.
The pattern is "OSAKA" - this is the word above the crown. The colour is "Flow Blue".
The words inside the globe read:
JKL
FENTON
ENGLAND
The Maker was JL Kent
"Fenton" was the area in Staffordshire where it was produced
So your plate is a Flow Blue J.K.L. Fenton Osaka China, Early 1900's.
The gilding is still present on your plate, but well worn.
Here are some pics of a well preserved Fenton "Osaka" set, together with the base mark.
This is a "Fenton" plate.
The pattern is "OSAKA" - this is the word above the crown. The colour is "Flow Blue".
The words inside the globe read:
JKL
FENTON
ENGLAND
The Maker was JL Kent
"Fenton" was the area in Staffordshire where it was produced
So your plate is a Flow Blue J.K.L. Fenton Osaka China, Early 1900's.
The gilding is still present on your plate, but well worn.
Here are some pics of a well preserved Fenton "Osaka" set, together with the base mark.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Please help identify artist...
« on: August 08, 2014, 05:36:42 am »I don't think that we know "for sure" Mart...
The Historian/Custodian at RCD said in her reply to me that - "The Japan painters were specialists in that particular type of decoration and the painters such as the Gresleys would have been working on the more prestige pieces. (However) It is entirely possible that they helped out in the Japan department if needed...
C Gresley was certainly acknowledged as a decorative artist on RCD pieces - but he began his career at RCD as an apprentice china painter. So it is at least probable that he was engaged in Imari pattern-work in his early years there, and as the Historian/Custodian suggests, perhaps there were occasions when he (and others) were called on to help out in the Japan china section.
It would be good to find a catalogue of RCD artist's marks so that we could learn more history.
I'm not pursuing who is right or wrong - just trying to find out some history about some pieces I have.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Please help identify artist...
« on: August 06, 2014, 02:09:02 am »
Oh well... the " G' " may not be a Gresley.
Here's the reply from the Historian-Curator at Royal Crown Derby:
Dear Joe
I am not sure about this theory, I don’t think there is any evidence to back it up. At this time there would have been a department specifically dedicated to decorating ‘Japan’ patterns. The Japan painters were specialists in that particular type of decoration and the painters such as the Gresleys would have been working on the more prestige pieces. It is entirely possible that they helped out in the Japan department if needed but this is not enough to claim that items with a decorators mark of a G are by a Gresley.
Kind regards
Jacqueline Smith
Curator
Here's the reply from the Historian-Curator at Royal Crown Derby:
Dear Joe
I am not sure about this theory, I don’t think there is any evidence to back it up. At this time there would have been a department specifically dedicated to decorating ‘Japan’ patterns. The Japan painters were specialists in that particular type of decoration and the painters such as the Gresleys would have been working on the more prestige pieces. It is entirely possible that they helped out in the Japan department if needed but this is not enough to claim that items with a decorators mark of a G are by a Gresley.
Kind regards
Jacqueline Smith
Curator
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: What's this silver plate piece for?
« on: August 05, 2014, 02:49:06 am »Unsure what size this is...
But reminiscent of a Soup Tureen...
Same overall shape...
Google " image antique silver soup tureen"
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Please help identify artist...
« on: August 04, 2014, 05:02:03 am »I've emailed the historian @royalcrownderby.co.uk asking if they have any info and will update the board if/when I get a reply.
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Antique Questions Forum / Queen Anne Bone China
« on: August 04, 2014, 04:41:58 am »
Can anyone help..??
I have the 6 x Trios plus the milk jug and sugar bowl of this Queen Anne Bone China.
The pattern number is 201
I am looking for additional pieces such as sandwich plate / platter/ cake plate / teapot etc. but google isn't being my friend and doesn't come up with anything on a search.
Anyone have any leads where I could locate any additional pieces.
I've combed ebay worldwide and gum tree as well as countless online auction houses etc.
The set dates to the late 1950's so it's not particularly valuable - but it seems to be quite scarce.
(Sorry about the Multiple Posts - Can a Mod please delete the other two (board says I cannot delete my own posts )
I have the 6 x Trios plus the milk jug and sugar bowl of this Queen Anne Bone China.
The pattern number is 201
I am looking for additional pieces such as sandwich plate / platter/ cake plate / teapot etc. but google isn't being my friend and doesn't come up with anything on a search.
Anyone have any leads where I could locate any additional pieces.
I've combed ebay worldwide and gum tree as well as countless online auction houses etc.
The set dates to the late 1950's so it's not particularly valuable - but it seems to be quite scarce.
(Sorry about the Multiple Posts - Can a Mod please delete the other two (board says I cannot delete my own posts )
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Please help identify artist...
« on: July 28, 2014, 02:01:42 am »
Thanks very much, mart and ipcress...
I know the RCD website quite well, and use it for dating etc., but it doesn't tell much/anything about the artists who produced this great work.
I've tried numerous searches on the web for info - but not much shows.
A friend over there in the UK has Margaret Sargeant's book "Royal Crown Derby" but I'm told there isn't much info in that re artists.
Good suggestion to ask/email RCD and see if they will help.
Info I've gleaned in the past:
Cuthbert Gresley and his younger brother Harold, trained under J.P.Wale
In 1893 both Gresley brothers started work at the Derby Porcelain factory.
Cuthbert was a truly accomplished ceramics painter with flowers and landscapes being his specialities, but he turned his hand to painting anything that was required.
He was regarded as one of Derby’s finest artists and worked on the service presented by Derby on the marriage of Princess Mary of Cambridge.
Cuthbert Gresley loved music and was a reasonably accomplished singer. He lived at Chelleston and Shelton Lock in Derbyshire, England.
The Gresley dynasty of painters covers three generations and includes: Harold Gresley, Cuthbert Gresley, James Stephen Gresley and Frank Gresley. (antique-marks.com/derby-artists)
Cuthbert Gresley
Born in Ockbrook in 1876 Cuthbert was to become a significant designer decorator at the world renowned Royal Crown Derby Porcelain Company. In 1894 he was apprenticed as a china painter under the tutorship of John Porter Wale Head of the painting room.
He was responsible for many commissioned services for royal households notably King George the V1 and Princess May of Cambridge. In his private life he was better known for his floral paintings in watercolour. (derbysketchingclub. co.uk)
You see by these two small info's that C Gresley was indeed employed by RCD as a china painter. He commenced in 1894 under John Porter Wale and flourished in the company and went on to design and to work on services for royalty. As far as I can tell, his reknowned paintings were very much a part of his private life. He undoubtedly worked on many many china services during his tenure at RCD. In later years as his skills advanced he may (or may not) have ceased working on factory production services.
Hopefully, RCD will help to uncover some history.
I know the RCD website quite well, and use it for dating etc., but it doesn't tell much/anything about the artists who produced this great work.
I've tried numerous searches on the web for info - but not much shows.
A friend over there in the UK has Margaret Sargeant's book "Royal Crown Derby" but I'm told there isn't much info in that re artists.
Good suggestion to ask/email RCD and see if they will help.
Info I've gleaned in the past:
Cuthbert Gresley and his younger brother Harold, trained under J.P.Wale
In 1893 both Gresley brothers started work at the Derby Porcelain factory.
Cuthbert was a truly accomplished ceramics painter with flowers and landscapes being his specialities, but he turned his hand to painting anything that was required.
He was regarded as one of Derby’s finest artists and worked on the service presented by Derby on the marriage of Princess Mary of Cambridge.
Cuthbert Gresley loved music and was a reasonably accomplished singer. He lived at Chelleston and Shelton Lock in Derbyshire, England.
The Gresley dynasty of painters covers three generations and includes: Harold Gresley, Cuthbert Gresley, James Stephen Gresley and Frank Gresley. (antique-marks.com/derby-artists)
Cuthbert Gresley
Born in Ockbrook in 1876 Cuthbert was to become a significant designer decorator at the world renowned Royal Crown Derby Porcelain Company. In 1894 he was apprenticed as a china painter under the tutorship of John Porter Wale Head of the painting room.
He was responsible for many commissioned services for royal households notably King George the V1 and Princess May of Cambridge. In his private life he was better known for his floral paintings in watercolour. (derbysketchingclub. co.uk)
You see by these two small info's that C Gresley was indeed employed by RCD as a china painter. He commenced in 1894 under John Porter Wale and flourished in the company and went on to design and to work on services for royalty. As far as I can tell, his reknowned paintings were very much a part of his private life. He undoubtedly worked on many many china services during his tenure at RCD. In later years as his skills advanced he may (or may not) have ceased working on factory production services.
Hopefully, RCD will help to uncover some history.
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