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Had some time this morning decided to look up Schmidt Co. and came across this plate.

http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/product_view/SWhiteVintageinFL/6404595/victoria_austria_schmidt_andamp_co_dessert_plates_hand_painted_roses_/vintage/antiques/_75_to_100_years_/housewares

The water color painting on the front looks very similar and that is quite intriguing, but I also found their stamp.  

http://www.artfire.com/uploads/product/5/595/4595/6404595/6404595/large/victoria_austria_schmidt_andamp_co_dessert_plates_hand_painted_roses__d9562fe7.jpg

The website says "Mark is Victoria over a Crown with Austria underneath - mark is reported to have been used between 1904 and 1918."  If the plate was made in 1897 it could have a completely different symbol.  I have a marking on my plate that looks IMO to be an SC with a T above it.  Maybe could possibly be Schmidt?  Quite a long shot but I will try to dig up what the symbol looked like pre-1904.

Again thanks to everyone trying to help me out!

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Thanks a lot for that info Jedo.  I've been busy with work the past couple days, but when I get time I'm going to look into Victoria Porcelain by Schmidt.   

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Certainly very odd but I agree it reads "Bonabarte."  I have searched for this spelling and nothing comes up.  Does anyone have any idea of a language in which a "P" could be lost in translation and turn into a "B"?

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I don't think they are Japanese or Chinese characters.  It looks like a K and C on one. and the other looks like it has  T and S and C.  I've been trying to research symbols from the time but have found nothing.

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I've done some small research on different 7's from the time period and have come up with tons of different styles from tons of different regions, some that look similar and some that don't.  

I actually believe it does read "Bonabarte" with a "b."  That mark about a cm below the "b" seems to be an imperfection.  If you zoom in on the cursive it appears to be one continuous line.

If it is a reproduction I'm not disappointed as it's been in my family for a very long time and the only thing I have from my Great Grandmother.  It's value isn't important I would just love to learn more about it.. unless it would pay off my student loans, that would be something to consider of course!  

Thanks again for this discussion and all of your input!!

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Thanks again for your input mart I'll research the typical European style of the time period!  I appreciate your opinion and it's possible it is a very old reproduction.  It was not made in 1997 though it has been in my mothers possession since 1988, the year I was born.

The back of the plate has pits and discoloration which doesn't seem like something a high quality plate would have, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Attaching a pic of the back of the plate in full.

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Picture of the '97!

Thanks for taking a look!

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Hey mart

I'm not sure why the album isn't showing up, here's a different link: http://imgur.com/a/BBFb5/all

I attached a picture of the back with the markings, I wasn't sure how to resize and apologize for the load time!   Trying to figure out how to resize right now and will re attach if I do.

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Hey people sorry for the double post! I had originally attached 5 photos but the file sizes were too big and I somehow must have ended up posting twice.

Here is an album of the photos I was originally trying to attach.  http://imgur.com/a/BBFb5


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I have an antique plate from my Great Grandmother.  It was given to me as a child and held onto by my parents and just now is the first time I've actually taken a look at it.  It's absolutely beautiful and the artwork is incredible.  The colors are bright and it looks like it was done yesterday, although I'm sure its quite old.

The front of the plate is a portrait of Napoleon.  It reads "Bonabarte 1769-1827"  There are some markings on the back and a date of '97 which has to be 1887.  I'll attach pictures.

If anyone has any information on this plate or how I can go about finding out more I would be so grateful.

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