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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Early American Chairs... ?
« on: January 04, 2011, 04:53:37 pm »
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Early American Chairs... ?
« on: January 04, 2011, 09:47:02 am »
I randomly emailed Leigh Keno without expecting a response at all but he replied within 12 hrs of the email.
He says "These chairs date from circa 1850- 1870 Hope this helps. Nice that they are still in your family. Livingston is such an illustrious name!"
so that basically settles it since I'll take his word over anything!
I agree they should be reupholstered and not refinished for sure. maybe restored a bit in the upper parts that are chipped.
He says "These chairs date from circa 1850- 1870 Hope this helps. Nice that they are still in your family. Livingston is such an illustrious name!"
so that basically settles it since I'll take his word over anything!
I agree they should be reupholstered and not refinished for sure. maybe restored a bit in the upper parts that are chipped.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Early American Chairs... ?
« on: January 03, 2011, 09:03:51 pm »
Wow! I knew these might generate some buzz, but wow.
I don't have the documentation but they absolutely no doubt older than 1900 - like i said they are well-established in the family going least to the great-great grandparents. There's a story about a couple being sat down in those chairs and being told to either get married or quit messing around, so they got married.
The spiral in pieces is because it's broken, the other arm (left hand as you sit in it) is solid (one piece). The reupholstery was likely done pre-1980's since it is quite worn already and I don't think these have seen much use in the last 20 yrs.
Is there any way to distinguish Phyfe original from later copies? Like a stamp, tool marking, anything like that?
I can't get my hands on them right now to feel for spindles. However, in the brief time i was (gingerly) sitting in them I remember a full/solid back - it's definitely not just fabric stretched over spindles.
I don't have the documentation but they absolutely no doubt older than 1900 - like i said they are well-established in the family going least to the great-great grandparents. There's a story about a couple being sat down in those chairs and being told to either get married or quit messing around, so they got married.
The spiral in pieces is because it's broken, the other arm (left hand as you sit in it) is solid (one piece). The reupholstery was likely done pre-1980's since it is quite worn already and I don't think these have seen much use in the last 20 yrs.
Is there any way to distinguish Phyfe original from later copies? Like a stamp, tool marking, anything like that?
I can't get my hands on them right now to feel for spindles. However, in the brief time i was (gingerly) sitting in them I remember a full/solid back - it's definitely not just fabric stretched over spindles.
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Antique Questions Forum / Early American Chairs... ?
« on: January 02, 2011, 07:11:46 pm »
The story is that these chairs once belonged to Philip Livingston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Livingston) who is a documented relative. They're called "the Livingston Chairs" and just came down from the 104 yr old great grandmother's estate this year.
Based on these pictures can anyone estimate an age/era?
Feel free to chime in on a value estimate if you want (we're completely clueless even of a ball park and they're still being used as regular sit around on type chairs and there small children often around) or advice on restoring/reupholstering them.
Based on these pictures can anyone estimate an age/era?
Feel free to chime in on a value estimate if you want (we're completely clueless even of a ball park and they're still being used as regular sit around on type chairs and there small children often around) or advice on restoring/reupholstering them.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Medals
« on: May 31, 2010, 11:11:10 am »
I got the answer from another forum.
It's a membership medal for the Hereditary Order of Descendants of Colonial Governors.
very random. but interesting nonetheless.
It's a membership medal for the Hereditary Order of Descendants of Colonial Governors.
very random. but interesting nonetheless.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: what is this?
« on: May 30, 2010, 08:13:28 am »
sorry there's no sense of scale! it's small - 1.75" diameter across the circular part and the dish is 1" deep.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Medals
« on: May 30, 2010, 08:11:11 am »
I'm pretty sure that BB&B stands for Bailey Banks and Biddel a medal manufacturer.
I can't find any markings saying gold but they're not tarnished at all and haven't been cleaned (in the last 30 years) so I don't know what they are. but most likely brass since not marked otherwise.
I just found some writing that the one is for Descendants of the Order of the Garter. so they must have joined some society and got a souvenir for doing so. http://www.brookfieldpublishing.com/KG/2.aspx mystery solved on that one!
I can't find any markings saying gold but they're not tarnished at all and haven't been cleaned (in the last 30 years) so I don't know what they are. but most likely brass since not marked otherwise.
I just found some writing that the one is for Descendants of the Order of the Garter. so they must have joined some society and got a souvenir for doing so. http://www.brookfieldpublishing.com/KG/2.aspx mystery solved on that one!
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Antique Questions Forum / what is this?
« on: May 29, 2010, 03:05:18 pm »
Completely unmarked. any idea what it's called/used for?
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Medals
« on: May 29, 2010, 10:10:20 am »
very interesting! definitely not a medal from the 1600's. the ribbon and whole thing are in way too good condition. and it's marked Henry Morris '79...
i just checked and there are tiiiiiiiiiiiiiny markings on the back that I think say "BB&B" and then some hand etched numbers.
i just checked and there are tiiiiiiiiiiiiiny markings on the back that I think say "BB&B" and then some hand etched numbers.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Medals
« on: May 29, 2010, 08:42:09 am »
ok! we found some record saying this medal is a Colonial Grant star. but i still can't find anything online about what and why and when.
It says "Gov. Thomas Lloyd" on the front.
It says "Gov. Thomas Lloyd" on the front.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Medals
« on: May 26, 2010, 07:46:15 pm »
The medal could be masonic, could be anything. I just assume military since he was in the military.
As for the Lesser George, I was hoping for an identical image or some explanation of why one might be in the box of random medals.
As for the Lesser George, I was hoping for an identical image or some explanation of why one might be in the box of random medals.
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Medals
« on: May 26, 2010, 11:27:54 am »
I really think they're American because everyone I know of in this family is old school American from Baltimore/Virginia area.
Henry Morris is definitely American.
But the Order of the Garter medal could have come from anywhere and by default I think England - but I would like to know if there's some kind of American branch of it that I haven't been able to find since I'm sure that the family is 100% American (at least since the mid 1700's).
Henry Morris is definitely American.
But the Order of the Garter medal could have come from anywhere and by default I think England - but I would like to know if there's some kind of American branch of it that I haven't been able to find since I'm sure that the family is 100% American (at least since the mid 1700's).
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Antique Questions Forum / Medals
« on: May 26, 2010, 10:41:39 am »
I would like to know what you know about these medals:
Inscribed Henry Morris '79 - a military Doctor who lived 1855-1929. It says "Thomas Lloyd" across the top. I think it's a Lloyd's Medal but can't find anything like it anywhere or any record to find out what it's for or if it was handed to him directly or to a younger generation for something he did.
This we've figured is a Lesser George Sash Badge - http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom002.htm
But I don't know how significant these are or how common. In reading a little it seems like only members of the Order of the Garter get them but can't imagine it coming down directly from royalty.
Any thoughts or opinions are welcome. Thanks!
Inscribed Henry Morris '79 - a military Doctor who lived 1855-1929. It says "Thomas Lloyd" across the top. I think it's a Lloyd's Medal but can't find anything like it anywhere or any record to find out what it's for or if it was handed to him directly or to a younger generation for something he did.
This we've figured is a Lesser George Sash Badge - http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom002.htm
But I don't know how significant these are or how common. In reading a little it seems like only members of the Order of the Garter get them but can't imagine it coming down directly from royalty.
Any thoughts or opinions are welcome. Thanks!
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Antique Carriage Clock - no name
« on: May 24, 2010, 10:01:45 am »
I just found this: http://www.goantiques.com/detail,carriage-clock-serpentine,67949.html
Still no mention of maker or age other than "French"
perhaps they had a new face put on a standard clock with numbers instead of numerals?
Still no mention of maker or age other than "French"
perhaps they had a new face put on a standard clock with numbers instead of numerals?
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Antique Questions Forum / Re: Antique Carriage Clock - no name
« on: May 24, 2010, 09:44:14 am »
does polishing negatively affect value?
would standard silver polishing methods be good for it?
would standard silver polishing methods be good for it?