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Re: Need help identifing this clock please
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2010, 05:36:02 pm »
Interesting snippet I found about upside down Roman numerals

http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/antiques/msg1214392115512.html?8

Posted by jemdandy (My Page) on Thu, Jan 1, 09 at 18:59

Open the door of the clock and carefully examine the inside for a label or marking. Paper labels usually were put on the inside surface of the back and positioned to be hidden when the door was closed. If you find no clues here, look on the outside back of the case for clues.
You have a very nice clock case. It is complete with the finial (top decoration). Often, the finial hid the top pulleys for the weight cords. However, I note that there are internal pulleys for the weights in an inverted arrangement, thus there may not be external pulleys at the top. Details such as these are needed to identify and date your piece.

The pendulum appears as a simple pendulum without temperature compensating pieces placing this in a class of ordinary clocks or possibly before clock makers learned how to make temperature compensating pendulums. A temperature compensated pendulum was an extra cost item.

Early clock faces with roman numerals positioned the numerals around the face with all pointing toward the center, thus the numerals at the bottom of the dial were upside down, as on your clock. At some point in history (I don't recall the date) roman numerals were rearranged such that the ones on the bottom of the dial were rightside up. However, this is not a given for dating because a modern maker could have made a dial in the older fashion manner to simulate an antique.

Not all clock makers made their own dials, but specified and purchased these from a maker specialising in dials and decorative itmes. A clock may have been built with mix and match subassemblies, i.e., movements, penudlum, dials, weights, pulleys, and door decorations, each of these manufactured by different makers. The finished product was defined by the case, arrangement of the assemblies, and quality of workmanship.

Most tall clocks made after 1825 used metal movements and gears. Earlier clocks may have had wood gears. All metal movements were consider superior.


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Re: Need help identifing this clock please
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2010, 05:48:05 pm »
Waterbury "Sage" model !! ??

http://www.antiqueclockspriceguide.com/manufmodelshow.php?manufacturer=Waterbury_Clock_Co&model=Sage&ordertype=DESC



http://www.hortonsantiqueclocks.com/jan08/25739_newest_pgs_65-72.pdf     (download)

Items #557 and #558

Take note of the write up on #558.........

558.                          $125

Waterbury Clock Co. carriage
clock, “Sage”, ca 1906. Same
name as #557, but everything
else is different. This clock also
has an 8 day movement and has
everything inside that Waterbury
had to offer...........


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Re: Need help identifing this clock please
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2010, 07:29:19 pm »
A few more hits for you.............


April, 1999                 http://www.roschmittfinearts.com/apr99/sat_cat0499.html

52-g    C.1905, Waterbury "Sage" time, strike + repeat carriage clock in original condition, with hairlines across the dial. The beveled glass is all good, and it runs OK and repeats fine. Ht 5.4" $150-200


From Kovels.com......... .......

Category   Clocks
Pattern or Item   Waterbury
Description   Sage, Carriage, Repeating, Brass Case, Beveled Glass, C.1910, 5 3/4 In.
Year   2005
Price   $200.00



Category   Clocks
Pattern or Item   Waterbury
Description   Carriage, Sage, Brass, Beveled Glass, Porcelain Dial, Alarm, 4 1/4 In.
Year   2004
Price   $215.00


Read more: http://www.kovels.com/priceguide/kovels_clock/2004/waterbury/2034978.html#ixzz0bbQ3yaOG