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Old French Clock?
« on: November 05, 2010, 06:53:35 am »
The movement is German but i can't find anything else on the clock, the design looks a little french-ish??










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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 11:24:37 am »
The movement looks quite new, but could be a replacement. I believe that is going to affect the value of the clock if its inner workings are not original, if the casing is antique. I'm not seeing a whole lot of age on the clock, and is that damage to the front right side of it or just something from flash photography? Can you determine what the decorative elements on the exterior of the clock case are made of- Wood, composition or plastic? Also if we can get a good look at any visible screw heads or the hinges, it would help to try to get a sense of if the clock is antique or a nice reproduction. Looking at the bottom might also help. Looking at the hardware and the construction of the clock, you want to look for any signs of machininging. The grate on the reverse of the clock looks very machine made, so I would look for other things that would indicate mass-production versus a handmade original. That doesn't mean it's not still a good clock. I'm not seeing any chipping or signs of wear on the gilding though. If it is old you should see some crazing (crackling) chipping etc at the edges. A clock repair store should be able to date it for you if you bring it to their shop.
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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 12:01:58 pm »
I was going to put the same Talesof.  Looks "new" as in that it is not antique or most likely not vintage.  They make so many reproductions and purposely make them look "ages" without the true tell tale age signs.

It resembles some made in the 70's to 90's. 

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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 01:23:20 pm »
I have been fooled before but i know the sort of things to look for but like i said, i have been fooled before..

The Guilding is made out of some kind of Metal i would assume cast?? no nails, just screws and a few pins. The movement may be new, im not sure...

A few picks of the Hinges and screws + the movement..




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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 01:27:17 pm »
Hi,

Difficult to tell, but is this like yours?

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Antique-Clocks-3526/2010/1/mantle-clock-2.htm

or this?

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-german-bronze-mantle-clock-franz-hermle-1

Seems like the works might be by Franze Hemle, and so may not necessarily be that old
« Last Edit: November 05, 2010, 01:32:51 pm by mariok54 »

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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 01:40:45 pm »
Good eye, i think you may be on to something, the case of course looks nothing like it but the dial looks close!! If the reply in that post you linked is true then i guess the movement may be from 69??
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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 02:22:37 pm »
The FHS and clock emblem is the logo for Franz Hermle & Sons. Their original factory was established in Germany but in recent years they have opened a US factory in VA as well.
Believe the 69 mean 1969.....

http://www.hermleclock.com/history

Dating
http://www.bhi.co.uk/aHints/hermledate.html
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Re: Old French Clock?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 02:27:42 pm »
Good eye, i think you may be on to something, the case of course looks nothing like it but the dial looks close!! If the reply in that post you linked is true then i guess the movement may be from 69??

I'd say 'Yes', but KC got it first .. well done KC