Can anyone tell me about these two dolls?

[jabiloxi]

I recently uncovered these and i am curious as to their origin and value.

There is a japanese boy doll which measures 8-10 inches and has japan marked on his left thigh.

There also is a large doll that has "ideal" marked on back of head.  It is pretty large and has some area where the latex or rubber body has begun tearing so I have it wrapped up pretty tight but was also able to get some pics as well.

Let me know if anyone has any ideas about these?

[talesofthesevenseas]

I think I can help a bit with the Japanese doll. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like it is an Ichamatsu doll. If you put Ichimatsu doll into a search query at Ebay, you'll see lots of them. They are beautiful, with very expressive faces and I've always admired them. They aren't all that old or worth a lot, but I think they look beautiful with Asian decor.

[mart]

From the hair on the last doll,, could possibly be Shirley Temple doll !! Hair is the same though a little darker than I remember. But that could be the pic.

[sapphire]

You may be able to spot your Ideal doll here.......

http://www.dollreference.com/ideal_toy_dolls1940s.html


When you reach the bottom of the page you can change era's using the dates in the turquoise bar.