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centralloan

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Vintage Solingen Knife Modelo Argentino
« on: August 29, 2011, 03:47:33 pm »
I have here a Blade w/ Scab

I need more information on it

Here is what I see stamped on the Blade:

Weyersberg
KIRSCHBAUM & cO
SOLINGEN

MODELO ARGENTINO 1891
"F DRY 3"???
Cant quite make it out.

There are stamps on the handle

RA
M or W
A with a * on top?
I555? Here is a link for an album with the pictures.

http://imageshack.us/g/43/img2455r.jpg/

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Vintage Solingen Knife Modelo Argentino
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 06:02:53 am »
Came across this........

http://www.militariarg.com/swords--bayonets.html

"M1891, Mauser Bolt Action "Modelo Argentino". Sabre-bayonet. Produced by Kirschbaum Solingen.

"While the Mauser rifles were manufactured by Ludwig Loewe & Co, it was decided that the bayonet would be supplied elsewhere.  Argentina considered doing business with several companies, including St. Etienne-Chaterault, Schilling, Sauer & Sohn, Simson & Co, and Haenel.  After much negotiation Argentina, under the advice of then-Colonel Riccheri, signed with Weyersberg, Kirschbaum & Co.  The first contract, signed on January 8, 1892, was for 50,000 bayonets.  A second order for 55,000 was placed in 1893 and the orders continued.  Weyersberg-Kirschbaum made every bayonet for the Model 1891 and for the Model 1909 (succesor of the Model 1891).
The Model 1891 bayonet consists of the hilt, the blade and the scabbard.  It was fitted for the 1891 and 1909 model rifles, the 1909 cavalry carbine and the 1909 engineer short rifle.  Among the markings are the Argentine coat of arms, the words "Modelo Argentino 1891", and "Weyersberg Kirschbaum & Co. Solingen".

In 1931 the army modified the Model 1891 cavalry carbine so that it could use a bayonet.  Instead of acquiring new bayonets they decided to take advantage of their large inventory of Remington bayonets by modifying them.

The modification work was done by the Argentine automaker Hispano Argentino de Automoviles S.A. (HAFDASA).  The modified Remington was later replaced by the J.C. Suarez & Co bayonet. 

The Commission 1888 Rifles used the standard German S71 sword-bayonet with brass grips and a 16 inch, 400mm blade.
Riccheri wanted to calibrate the chamber and the bayonet mount.  This would allows a good fit for the cartridge as well as standardize the bayonet size so that it would fit any rifle. 

Source: Argentine Mauser Rifles 1871-1959 by Colin Webster"
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More info here, including serial numbers......

http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/arg1891a.htm


Try searching using 1891 argentino bayonet  ;)