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Re: "Offert par la Cour St Georges a Gand" 1228 plate
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2009, 07:25:28 pm »
Sorry noone has gotten back to you on the value.  The value for pewter decorative plates are all over the place....from $11.00 to $50 each depending on the dating and proof of origin.

So far, we can't prove yours.  Would like to try a little more.  Please post pics of the backs!
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Re: "Offert par la Cour St Georges a Gand" 1228 plate
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 06:35:00 am »
Here we go! Have found several similar examples. Prices range from $64-$77 or so. These are antique shop prices so I think it's safe to say your plate could be worth this amount but again, it's only worth what someone's will to pay. So if you auctioned it for instance, you might not be guaranteed these prices. They are definitely 20th century and seem to decorative collectables, meant for hanging on the wall and not eating off of.

The first is from an online antique shop advertising them as "Repousse" plates (I learned something new today!). It says "Repousse is the art of beating and carving metal from the reverse side to emboss a design into the front side." So perhaps yours isn't machine stamped afterall. She mentions a touchmark on the back.
http://antiquesandtreasuresuntold.com/Pewter-Plate-with-Repousse-Image-NSZ275--P241940.aspx

I'm not sure if this next link will work so if it doesn't, just scroll down to the picture of several pewter plates stacked together. Some touchmarks are mentioned to be on a few of them.
http://www.lelouvre-antiques.com/pages/Accessories%20and%20Miscellaneous/Pewter%20Plates%20508-1.html

So I think yours was meant to be a souvenir and intended for decorative purposes but at least we know it is made of pewter (or pewter style) and roughly when it was made.  :)

Also, just found these two links on ebay. It might be worth watching them end to see how much they go for. The plates aren't exactly the same but they're close.
This one if from the 1950's: http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-FRENCH-PEWTER-PLATE-CHARGER-MARIE-ANTOINETTE_W0QQitemZ390070665749QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiques_Decorative_Arts?hash=item5ad2060215&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

This one is listed as being from '1850-1899' but I think it's more recent than that: http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-PEWTER-FAMILY-CREST-PLATE-OLD-GERMAN-OR-FRENCH_W0QQitemZ110414335028QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiques_Decorative_Arts?hash=item19b5350c34&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Here's another one http://cgi.ebay.com/WONDERFUL-OLD-ANTIQUE-FRENCH-COUNTRY-PEWTER-HORSE-PLATE_W0QQitemZ200335145284QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiques_Decorative_Arts?hash=item2ea4e7b944&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

And this one I think is genuine and quite beautiful: http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-French-Pewter-Plate-Louis-XII-Porcupine-Crown_W0QQitemZ380137792172QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_15?hash=item5881fa62ac&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50




« Last Edit: July 21, 2009, 07:05:35 am by ayashe »

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Re: "Offert par la Cour St Georges a Gand" 1228 plate
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 12:55:23 pm »
Ayashe, you have done well.  Repousse is the correct term for embossing/stamping/beating the decoration into the pewter (or metal) and is also called "joggling".  Joggling was done by tapping a chisel and rocking it side to side to make the design - which the Dutch specialized in this type of work.


However, you will note that the Dutch, German, English, etc did put makers marks on their items....which is why I have requested and am requesting pictures of the back of the plates.  You can't determine if it is a higher priced item unless you get all the facts!  Several of those listed do have the angel mark.




« Last Edit: July 22, 2009, 08:46:44 am by KC »
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Re: "Offert par la Cour St Georges a Gand" 1228 plate
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 06:15:44 am »
Yes, agreed. We won't know for sure until we find a maker's mark.  :) Didn't know it was also called joggling, thanks!  ;)

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Re: "Offert par la Cour St Georges a Gand" 1228 plate
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 07:29:54 pm »
Another tid-bit is that the coat-of-arms on your plate is very much like the one used in Zbaraz , during the "Polish period" 1920-1939 .

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Re: "Offert par la Cour St Georges a Gand" 1228 plate
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2011, 08:35:35 pm »
I have a plate that looks identical to darkstar300's. Wondering if anyone has any new info.