Glasgow china mark?

[kidden6968]

Hi everyone,

I have a simple white soap dish - probably hotel ware - marked Glasgow China Vitrified Trenton, NJ

I am trying to find a date range.  It looks fairly new - minor staining.  I saw another listed on rubylane I believe and it indicated it was from 1860 or so but the early marks I can find were printed in black.  This is embossed and I just cannot find a date anywhere.
I don't think you can see it clearly in the pic but we'll see.
Can anyone help?

[greenacres]

What is the embossing I can't see it?

[bigwull]

Can uou do a pencil rub of the mark....cause our peepers ain,t that good....white on white with all that glare.....help!

[kidden6968]

That's what I thought - sorry guys - my crappy indoor lighting - white on white and glare - argghhh   

I will try and take more pics later this morning but in the meantime it says:

Glasgow China
Vitrified
Trenton, NJ

[bigwull]

That's what I thought - sorry guys - my crappy indoor lighting - white on white and glare - argghhh   

I will try and take more pics later this morning but in the meantime it says:

Glasgow China
Vitrified
Trenton, NJ

We don,t need pics now...your English is very good

[bigwull]

Found some but they are patterned unlike your,s which is what we call over here...a plain Geordie....or as its spelt in Scottish....Plen Geordie... ..and whilst i,m on aboot auld Scottish .Dudonese.....try and get yer tongue aroond this...then tell me what i,m on aboot....."Eh hud meh ehe on a peh"....or  this...."Suffehce t,seh Eh was dehlighted wi the response,speshully among intrehpit ahlder generations wha ken a pletty frum a peeny and the difference atween the lah and the Lah! ...

[kidden6968]

hahah while my English may be very good, my Scottish is not so good    So I have no idea  LOL other than yes I could say "eh was dehlighted wi the response" and that's where I lost it  LOL

And yes the few I saw were patterned and not a Plen Geordie such as mine.  However, the ones I did see had the same mark as mine and were indicated as an "early mark" from the 1860's but when I researched the early mark, it states it was printed in black.  I don't think the embossed mark is that early and that's what I can't find.

I did find reference to this embossed mark but no date indicated.

[Rauville]

Here's some early information on the Glasgow Trenton markings:
http://trentonhistory.org/Made/Marks.html
I bet the "Vitrified" mark will help date it.

(BTW: I'm always amazed at the information that seems to flow from this site. For instance; up until a short time ago, all I knew about Scotland was that it was the homeplace of Old Jock and Old Granny. Before I know it, I'll be able to converse with my ribeye in the native tongue. )

[sapphire]

Here's some early information on the Glasgow Trenton markings:
http://trentonhistory.org/Made/Marks.html
I bet the "Vitrified" mark will help date it.

(BTW: I'm always amazed at the information that seems to flow from this site. For instance; up until a short time ago, all I knew about Scotland was that it was the homeplace of Old Jock and Old Granny. Before I know it, I'll be able to converse with my ribeye in the native tongue. )

Geez, thanks Rauville. Now you've got me spitting my pepsi

[kidden6968]

I am amazed every day by the people on this board - the knowledge - the kindness - the enthusiasm  to help - and the diversity.  I am loving learning some Scottish since it is somewhere in my lineage along with a bunch of others.   

[kidden6968]

The mark is there Sapphire  - but with no dates and shows it printed in black - same mark though.

[bigwull]

I am amazed every day by the people on this board - the knowledge - the kindness - the enthusiasm  to help - and the diversity.  I am loving learning some Scottish since it is somewhere in my lineage along with a bunch of others.   

What do ya mean wi a bunch of ithers...every American I,ve iver met...has ether got Irish roots or Scottish roots...an i,ve met a guid few....but at least you can say..you,ve got them roots....unlike them in Oz.."No Not Dorothy,s Oz"... .whaur their a descendants o.criminals...that were punted ower there, fae Britain...

[bigwull]

hahah while my English may be very good, my Scottish is not so good    So I have no idea  LOL other than yes I could say "eh was dehlighted wi the response" and that's where I lost it  LOL

And yes the few I saw were patterned and not a Plen Geordie such as mine.  However, the ones I did see had the same mark as mine and were indicated as an "early mark" from the 1860's but when I researched the early mark, it states it was printed in black.  I don't think the embossed mark is that early and that's what I can't find.

I did find reference to this embossed mark but no date indicated.

..."Eh hud meh ehe on a peh"...translation....I had my eye on a pie...simple..

[kidden6968]

Ok got that part now  LOL   I actually have both Irish and Scottish with some English and the rest is a mystery.   

I suppose it is time to invest in some books as what I find on the internet are more like excerpts with lots of missing information and the last thing I want to do is state something is from 1860 if it was made in 1998