hawaiicjo, you should either "edit" all 3 of your clock posts or add a "reply" to each one of them and give the size measurements of the clocks, ...... any names that are on the fronts of them, ...... and any names, etc. that are on the clock mechanism itself, ........ etc., etc., so that a viewer knows something about them, otherwise it will be extremely difficult to offer any sensible opinion on them. cheers