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jramirez05

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Stumped!
« on: January 10, 2012, 01:14:41 pm »
I have this cannon, it appears to be cast iron, and these can range from $20-$2000. I cannot figure out what kind this is and its value. There is only one mark on the top.

Any help would be appreciated!

mart

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 01:44:15 pm »
Is the mark just the letter S ???

jramirez05

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 01:46:06 pm »
That is my main problem... I believe so, the possible mark could be:

iisii
hsh
hsii
h5h

or something similar... This has been a big headache!

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 01:47:16 pm »
Bigger photo

fancypants

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 01:54:44 pm »
I'm curious to know the gen'l size of your item , and its' bore size , jramirez05 .

I didn't see a touch-hole (for fuse &/or powder) , could just be my eyes .... is it a 'functional unit' ?

Prob way off the mark , but it reminds me of some Swiss mortars , seen in the distant past .
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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 01:57:28 pm »
Looks like maybe "HSII" to me. As in HS2?

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 02:01:54 pm »
Size:
10.2 lbs
18 in long
5.5 in wide
hole- .8 in wide

there is no place for a fuse, it is not a "functional unit"

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 12:11:17 pm »
any other ideas?

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 12:27:24 pm »
This looks like a decorative reproduction to me. The functional reproductions are much heavier. For example I have a 5/8 scale US Carronade made by Hern Iron Works. Although it is only 25" long it weighs 72 lbs. See the specs on a variety of scale models here:
http://www.hernironworks.com/cannons.html
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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 12:29:26 pm »
I should add that there are theatrical cannons and signal cannons that use small amounts of blackpowder, bangsite etc.
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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 12:49:22 pm »
I would agree with Tales on this one. Looks like a decorator item to me also. The castings have a rather "unfinished" appearance, and that hex nut on the connecting screw /pin would bother me.

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 01:40:26 pm »
When I first viewed the picture I thought it was a big sucker!  Then when they gave the dimensions...vote decorative reproduction!
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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2012, 03:21:17 pm »
It doesn`t match any of the working cannons that I have found, like the signal cannons !!  I saw one dec. repro that was made similarly !!  Yours is like this one  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1900-Cannon-Cast-Iron-Brass-Military-Display-Original-Antique-Artillery-/290655215649?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item43ac66a021 !! The one on ebay had a brass cannon and cast iron carriage but size is about the same !! It is listed as an english cannon !! I looked at all the American ones and the carriage goes straight back on them,, it does not curve upward !!
« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 04:05:52 pm by mart »

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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 08:36:08 pm »
Felt the same way , KC , @ first look .... but then ...

No evidence of port/touch-hole = repro .

I am not hip @ all to the values of repro/fantasy items , so .... sorry , but I just can't be of any help with pricing , jrameriz05 !
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Re: Stumped!
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 02:35:22 am »
I found a few sites of imports that match the style so well under search for decorative cannons!
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