Author Topic: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????  (Read 2853 times)

dodobirds

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« on: June 06, 2012, 06:39:58 pm »
Hey Folks,

I've got this picture frame that's got some floral design at the top and the remaining sides are covered in various patterns; see photos below.


The top portion also has what appears to be a sheath of arrows and perhaps a torch, in addition to a wreath; see photos below.



Also! There are some stamps on the back (pictured below). I am certain that the first three characters are "920" but after that I'm baffled. I'm pretty confident the second to last character is an ampersand ("&"). DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT ANY OF THIS MAY MEAN????


Any information or ideas would be appreciated.  Also looking to determine a possible value on the frame.

Thanks!
-Paul
« Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 06:46:41 pm by dodobirds »

sapphire

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3137
  • Karma: +34/-0
  • Without direction, we are lost.
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 07:26:57 pm »
No expert here, but 925 indicates sterling silver so I'm assuming 920 would be silver but of a slightly lower grade than sterling, not as low as coin silver though.  I've cropped and played with your pic trying to get a clearer shot in hopes that someone more familiar with silver marks can pick up from here.


« Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 07:49:52 pm by sapphire »

KC

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11661
  • Karma: +93/-0
  • Forever Blessed!
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 08:09:54 pm »
Usually the mark for silver isn't separated like this but a number all together!

Could still use a better pic.
I'm from the South - but please don't mistake my Southern Manners/Accent/Charm as a weakness!

mart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19849
  • Karma: +122/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 08:20:45 pm »
I think 920 is the English standard , the stamps look like a unique way of lettering initials, sort of scroll like !!  Looks like LB & S !!  Darn,, just thought of something !!  Should have looked for last name starting with a B !!  The other two stamps to the left might be a lion ?? For Sterling ?? And date letter ?? I cant see them well enough to tell what they are !!
« Last Edit: June 08, 2012, 10:43:28 am by mart »

greenacres

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4147
  • Karma: +22/-0
  • ❤❤❤
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 09:15:45 pm »
That's funny because i thought the second letter from the right was this this symbol "&"
" Energy and Persistence conquer all things."

mart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19849
  • Karma: +122/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 10:46:00 am »
It is Greenacres !!  LB in one block ( & ) S or could be CS in last block !!

elfyx

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 11:35:11 am »
Hi...
     hope you dont mind me poking my nose in...but i dont think its an english silver mark...could be french or german..
cheers elfyx

greenacres

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4147
  • Karma: +22/-0
  • ❤❤❤
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 02:51:55 pm »
I wonder if it's enough info to go to the silver markings website?
" Energy and Persistence conquer all things."

mart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19849
  • Karma: +122/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 08:16:58 pm »

Do they have a 920 silver standard ??  May be French or German !! I haven`t had time to look much !!  Please feel free to join in our discussions !!  Thats what the forum is for !  Many heads are better than one !! 


Hi...
     hope you dont mind me poking my nose in...but i dont think its an english silver mark...could be french or german..
cheers elfyx

greenacres

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4147
  • Karma: +22/-0
  • ❤❤❤
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 09:21:10 pm »
http://www.925-1000.com/ dodobirds you can try that website. It could be a Hana Psuedo Mark. I'll check the French marks now.
" Energy and Persistence conquer all things."

greenacres

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4147
  • Karma: +22/-0
  • ❤❤❤
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 09:50:58 pm »
I think KC is right. It's silverplated. Look up H. Perry and sons it's almost identical.
" Energy and Persistence conquer all things."

dodobirds

  • New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Antique picture frame with mysterious stamps on back????
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 07:28:24 pm »
Awesome! Thanks so much with the help everyone. I really appreciate it. From what I've found, it looks similar to H. Perry and Company (see http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_P.html).  Also, the first Old English-looking letter appears similar to the 1760 character found here http://www.silvercollection.it/englishsilverhallmarks.html suggesting that it may be English in origin.  But I don't see a sterling lion anywhere so I'm really not sure.  I'm thinking about putting a $125 price tag on it. Any additional thoughts on the frame's origin and/or possible prices???? Thanks again everybody!!