Hey thanks Wendy, I have exhausted my search for chinese or japanese lol. I think you have great points for me to refocus my reseach. I thought it looked like chinese/japanese character marks. I forgot to add on my original post that there is also a 56J, a 3 laying in a different direction and another imprint I can't make out. I didn't even think to research the very specific gilt detail, I am sleepy today lol. I really appreaciate all the feed back. There is so much to know and learn, I am always amazed. I am hoping they are worth something as I deffinetly got caught up in the biding war and paid a wee bit more than my comfort zone for the storage locker I got them from. But then, no risk no gain either. Take care