Possible Luneville? Help identifying Marks and era. Thanks

[ghopper1924]

Let us know what you learn about brass mounts and ormolu. I've got some (possible) Muller Freres glass vases with gilt metal cradles.

[yattypat]

HI,  I think I may have found something.  See attached photo.  It looks like a Luneville mark and from 1880 according to the site I found it on.  Please let me know what you think.  It is a K and a G
Thanks again.

[yattypat]

Here is the site I found the mark at:
http://infofaience.com/en/luneville-marks

[greenacres]

I did a search of Lumeville Pottery. If you check the images it's not right, as I search French Potteries that came up from that I saw Thoune Pottery. Check that out.

[mart]

I wish Chris Marshall had taken a look at this one !!

[yattypat]

Hi all, I am sticking to the Luneville for now.  I think it is a K and G which stands for Keller and Guerin.  If you google Keller and Guerin the images look more like my pieces.  This is a tricky one.  I have also seen a few with the similar stamped mark that looks kinda like a C and r, or something.  I have not found any pieces with my same K G mark.  Only saw the mark on this web site: http://infofaience.com/en/luneville-marks.
SO HERES A KICK.  I sent pics to a few auction houses.  Bonhans got back to me and is forwarding to their porcelain expert and this morning Keno auctions asked for more images to have Leigh Keno (Antiques Roadshow twin) himself look at it.  LOL I feel kinda like a celeb.  :-)

[mart]

Let us know what you find out !!  I am curious too !!

[greenacres]

That's great and so cool! I saw the faicence. It is closer. Good luck! Maybe you made a be score .

[sapphire]

I came across this preview of a book on Luneville, Keller & Guerin.  Check out the third one down, far right. I've copied, cropped and rotated it for a closer look.  Difficult to read the print but am seeing something about the 'production of Saint Clement' and 'after the mark for the KG' as well as 'after (appears to be) 1892' .......... relying on my long, long ago French lessons from junior high 

http://www.lepuitsauxlivres.com/produit-la-faiencerie-de-luneville-1786-1923-keller-guerin-en.html

http://www.lepuitsauxlivres.com/DataPuits//downloads/Produit/1295006379_3224303.jpg

[sapphire]

Another site attributed this mark to Taxile Doat (1851-1038) who worked for Sevres Pottery from 1877-1905. A comment on the photograph by a Paul Arthur in 2010 states "The signature is not Taxile Doat, but Keller et Guerin at Luneville.
Kind regards"

http://chicagocraftsmanblog.com/category/pottery-sevres/

http://chicagocraftsmanblog.com/2009/05/taxile-doat-pottery/#comments

[sapphire]

OMG I think I found the closest one yet!   hehe

http://www.french-antique-dealers.com/item/49814/luneville-faience-cachepot-by-keller-and-guerin

Although the K and G are not at the same rotation as yours I think you can feel pretty safe with the Keller and Guerin  

[sapphire]

And another.......

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/10987434_pr-keller-and-guerin-luneville-gilt-and-cobalt-vases

"Pr Keller & Guerin, Luneville gilt decorated cobalt pottery vases, crowned lion rampant decoration with overall fleur de lis, bottom with a gilt KG conjoined mark, after 1880, perfect condition, 13 3/4" tall"

[sapphire]

One last blurb before I head to bed.........

http://www.oldandsold.com/pottery/france4.shtml

First row, fourth down.....attributed to Luneville, Keller & Guerin

[yattypat]

Sapphire thats awesome thank you.  I am so impressed with this site and all of the help I have been given.  It sure is a lot easier with extra detectives, so to speak, helping out.  I had no idea what direction to take and every comment helped me get closer and just learn more in general. 
That is what I love especially about research, it makes me that much keener about antiques in general and a better eye for that next big garage sale or thrift score.   


I think I am fairly safe to say that my pieces are from approx 1880-1890.  If I don't hear back from Kenos auction soon I am thinking about listing them on Ebay so I can start recooping my money invested.  I am NOT a big Ebay fan so hopefully Kenos will take them. Any help with description would be greatly appreciated.  Does anyone have a description for the flower on the pattern? It reminds me of a thistle? What is the middle vessel called?

Take care

[mart]

Excellent research Sapphire !!