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marky1980

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help with oil painting
« on: July 12, 2012, 12:05:20 pm »
hi could any one tell me any information on this wonderfull oil painting that i have aquired it is signed duchamp pics attached any info on the artist etc and value and where to sell would be gratefully appreciated many thanks

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 02:53:16 pm »
Here are a few other paintings by Duchamp being offered online , hopefully someone else can give you a more accurate appraisal. If you don't mind my asking, how did you acquire it?

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1500920

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIGNED-OIL-Painting-Duchamp-Gold-plasterwood-frame-cubism-style-/271006678626#ht_960wt_1396

http://www.thelittleusedstore.com/boutique/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=56

And here is a little about Marcel Duchamp himself:
http://www.theartstory.org/artist-duchamp-marcel.htm


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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 02:58:13 pm »
i aquired from my grandma it was my grandads and passed down to me after he passed away with few other paintings he collected far as im aware he has had this least 10 years

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 03:01:49 pm »
Assuming it's genuine and well cared for it seems you have a very nice painting. Although, I would wait to see what the more knowledgeable folks on the site have to say too.

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 03:05:13 pm »
it is genuine and is beautifuly done it is in mint condition has been stored away and was kept well ive no idea about art but one of the nicest paintings i have seen be nice to find out more from more people who know about artist etc and his works

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 07:07:07 pm »
This artist worked well into his later years !! He died in 1968 !! Was into several styles during his life including cubism and modern sculpture !! Some of the works during his cubist period sell pretty high !! And the popularity of one style over another is what is going to determine the value of this piece !! Might help if you knew the title of this painting !!  Even the best artists have paintings that don`t bring as much as others do !!

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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 08:25:12 pm »
The subject is St. Mark's Square in Venice....I see the Doge's Palace.

If this is really Marcel Duchamp, it is from close to the end of his career - 1950s-60s.

It is incredible to believe that this could be by THE Marcel Duchamp, the same guy who painted 'Nude Descending a Staircase' for the 1913 Armory show and 'The Bride Stripped Bare by her Bachelors Even.' He was perhaps the most revolutionary artist of the 20th century.

This painting is nice and all, and would sell especially well in today's retro mid-20th century market, but it seems so ordinary compared to his groundbeaking earlier work.
"I collect antiques because they're beautiful."

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 08:39:51 pm »
I came across these bits........

From Wikipedia........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Duchamp

 "He moved to Paris in 1919, and then back to the United States in 1920. Upon his return to Paris in 1923, Duchamp was, in essence, no longer a practicing artist although he did work on several projects towards his death. Instead, his main interest was now chess, which he studied for the rest of his life to the exclusion of most other activities."


.......which to me would suggest there would be few examples of his work post late 20's



A 12 x 10 oil on canvas, signed Duchamp (below) which bears similarities to the one you have posted......

http://www.ioffer.com/i/duchamp-oil-painting-signed-12-x-10-gold-framed-wood-487671868

Origin: USA
Age approx late 1950's - mid 1960's
Who owned the piece before ? A private person
This painting was not painted by Marcel Duchamp  ( Marcel Duchamp stopped painting in the late 1930's and basically only created art called Ready Made ) this artwork was painted by one of the brothers unfortunately which one of the brothers we simply have not been able to find out.

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 08:54:45 pm »
Following up on that last blurb.....

Regarding sculptor Raymond Duchamp Villon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Duchamp-Villon

"Of the six Duchamp children, four would become successful artists. He was the brother of:

Jacques Villon (1875–1963), painter, printmaker
Marcel Duchamp (1887–1968), painter, sculptor and author
Suzanne Duchamp-Crotti (1889–1963), painter"

Edited to add.....Raymond being a sculptor, Jacques went by the surname of Villon and Suzanne from what I can find signed her work S. or Suzanne Duchamp.......which brings us back to Marcel (or another totally different Duchamp family)
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 09:09:50 pm »
Another piece that was sold for $60 listed on Live Auctioneers......

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1500920

"DUCHAMP Oil on Canvas Painting Brooklyn Bridge" (but which Duchamp??)

Again, a similar style and signature although the signature looks rather unsteady.

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 09:31:53 pm »
Found the 'Brooklyn Bridge' listed again on Live Auctioneers, Lot passed. This listing states........


H. Duchamp (American, 20th century) "Brooklyn Bridge," c. 1970, oil on canvas, 20" x 24", signed lower right, framed

Condition report
no retouch; in good condition overall

Estimate $500 - $700
Starting Bid $250


There were bids up to $425, so I'm assuming there was a reserve.


http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9798754

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Re: help with oil painting
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 02:01:16 am »
thank you so much for all info just about finding which duchamp actualy painted it then would have a clear rough value as im asuming marcel was alot better then his brothers does any body have a rough value guide what i should put in at auction for thanks

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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 03:33:06 pm »
H. Duchamp. That makes much more sense.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 04:25:36 pm »
I haven`t found one yet,, unless I missed one here,,that matches the signature he has !!