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hosman321

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18th Century Painted Chest
« on: August 26, 2012, 06:09:46 am »
I bought this chest off Craigslist yesterday (for a great price!) and I would love to know more about it! It was listed as "Scandinavian or German." But I have been looking at hundreds of them tonight and it reminds me of Austrian ones. But I don't know exactly what to look for! It is missing it's feet. The hinges, lock, nails and escutcheon are original. The key is missing. The paint is all old grimy milk paint, very worn and warm. It may have been completely repainted at some point in it's life but I'm not certain. There is milk/oxblood paint over a few areas of extensive worm damage, so it was at least touched up. There also appears to be a very faded dark red pattern underneath the lighter red paint in some areas, which can be seen in a few of the photos. But it could just be darker red paint that was painted at the same time. It's hard to tell! You can see what I mean about the worm damage and the faded pattern in the third picture, near the top of the chest. If it was repainted, it was a very long time ago, maybe in the mid 19th century. I realize it won't be worth as much if it has been repainted. But for history's sake, I wouldn't mind a bit. I have been reading a lot online tonight and I read that these were usually kept for many generations and the family repainted them through the years. 
There are a few words and scribbles in the little compartment inside, "88" is written a few times. I will get more pictures posted later! Thank you for any advice!
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 06:15:03 am »
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 06:40:18 am »
Can't offer any knowledge........bu t WOW!! Absolutely LOVE it!  Beautiful find. ;)

Only thing that did strike me was the signature. The very first thing that came to mind was the name of an old friend of my mother's..... Sjolander, which is Swedish, but I wouldn't be surprised if Scandinavian last names are similar in spelling. If I'm seeing correctly (and that's questionable) there's an S + J.......so they could both 'belong' there, rather than an S.  J______.

Congrats on the new acquisition!

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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 06:43:03 am »
Thank you, sapphire! I'll get a clearer picture posted of that writing soon. :)

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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 06:53:04 am »
The wood looks like Scandinavian Pine...or Redwood as its known here in the UK,the hinges are called Back strap hinges,The paint is probably Gesso,which is also known as milk paint..in some area,s....its was used to cover up imperfections e.g knots irregular grain patterns etc..judging by the ironmongery....i would put its age..somewhere between 1870 and 1902...
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 06:55:39 am »
Love it hosman!!!

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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 07:02:26 am »
Thank you, Wendy!
Bigwull: Thank you for your reply! Milk paint may have a bit of a different meaning over there, I apologize for not being clear! Over here, milk paint is literally that: a paint made with milk or other all natural ingredients. They used lyme, berries, blood from animals, iron oxide, clay etc. Gesso is more like chalky thick paint stuff that dries hard and people use to fill holes and make repairs, there isn't any gesso on here. :)
Also, I'm not an expert but I do know that it's much earlier that late 1800s-early 1900s!
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 07:14:38 am »
Agree on the date. I'd say 18th century is probably right, and possibly far back in the 18th century at that. That's some nice blacksmithing!
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 07:55:32 am »
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2012, 09:13:28 am »
Over here,in the UK,this is known as a Pine Kist,..on the left side as i see it,that lid lifts up,it should have no hinge..it will have a dowel peg that fits into the sides..does it have 2 small drawers underneath the compartment?
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2012, 09:34:48 am »
how big is this chest ??

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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2012, 10:59:44 am »
I'll have to measure the whole thing again but I do remember that it's 53 inches long x 17 inches tall. I'll get the depth asap. It does have a dowel peg for the inside compartment! But no drawers under the compartment. :)

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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2012, 11:03:23 am »
If its 17in tall, then that,s the depth,its the width we need i,d hazard a guess and say its around 20in
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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 11:05:40 am »
could be a dowry chest ! excellent find !  i would agree on 18th century but probably mid to late !

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Re: 18th Century Painted Chest
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 11:07:31 am »
Oops! I meant width. ;)