Powder Horn and Shot?

[Kimmienemo]

Any idea on age of the powder horn and Canadian Explosives tin?  These belonged to my great-grandfather who lived in Ontario, Canada.

[Kimmienemo]

I should have noted that the relief on the powder horn is on both sides and is of equal condition.

[sapphire]

Here's your shot tin.......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Antique-Gunpowder-Tin-Can-CXL-Industries-Montreal-Canada-Explosives-CIL-/280961867191

"Hard to find Vintage Canadian Explosives Limited CXL Black Sporting Powder, Gunpowder Tin. This was made by CXL Industries, Montreal Canada. They manufactured under the CXL brand from 1910 to 1926, then became CIL Snap Shot Sproting Powder. The CXL tins are quite a bit harder to find than the CIL tins. This is a very old tin and is not perfect with minor dents and scratches as expected, please check pictures for condition. This is a great piece to add to a hunting collection. The front has a picture of a falling duck and the colors are bright and crisp. This is empty and being sold as a collectible piece."

I had found a couple of others that list a date of circa 1890 - 1920, but according to the history of CXL they didn't start any form of production until 1914. They were located in Nobel, near Parry Sound.

http://www.ontarioabandonedplaces.com/cil/cil.asp

[sapphire]

I just noticed that the listing on ebay states CXL Industries, Montreal, Canada. Unless there was a massive land shift I haven't heard about Montreal was never in Ontario.  Not sure where they got that info. 

[Kimmienemo]

Montreal is only about 164 miles from where my mother's family lived/lives, Arnprior, Ontario, Canada. 

The back of the can has the CXL markings with what also seems like perhaps the price handwritten in grease pencil?  There is also a small dent on the back.  But other than the dent and the few scratches, it seems to be in very good condition.

[sapphire]

Is your powder horn metal?  Can you take pics of the top and threads if any?  That would help out those that are familiar with them.  

Definitely a 'personal' item.......hunting scene.

Have you checked it all over for any markings?  and is that rust or has it been painted?

[Kimmienemo]

I agree, personal taste!  I find the "falling goose" rather disturbing!

Here are some more pictures.  I hope this is what you meant.

[sapphire]

Hehe.......mean the power horn!  But those are good too......the fact that you still have the lid is a plus

[Rauville]

Here's a seller offering a "hanging dead game" powder flask somewhat similar to yours. Look under the "Indian War Period" listing. Wow...$165!
http://gundersonmilitaria.com/acc2.html

[Kimmienemo]

Sorry, Sapphire!  I was getting ready to go to work and wasn't reading carefully enough.  I will have to post the pictures of the powder horn later.  I can say though, that the top is intact and looks very similar to the top of this powder horn.  It is metal, and according to what I have been able to find, THINK it might be copper.  That seems to be the preferred metal of powder horns.

There are no suspension loops.  There is one small hole up near the top where it looks like a loop may have gone.  Attached to the horn, is a small loop and pin that has a split bottom as though one would insert the pin into the powder horn and splay the pin to secure it to the horn.  I am not going to even try that, as  I am afraid the pin might break.  I am sure it is more valuable just as it is without me monkeying around with it!

I will post more picts of the horn this evening.

[KC]

Please look the flask over carefully for a makers mark.  It is done so detailed....  Nice family heirloom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kimmienemo]

After all that I have read from this forum, is it safe to assume that I should NOT try to clean it?  I know you should never clean coins, but I'm not sure about this thing!

[Rauville]

Here is some interesting information concerning powder flasks and gun powder. Be sure to look at the footnotes regarding the color determination.

http://www.collectingstuff.com/2010-09-19th-century-black-powder-flasks-weapons-militaria-collection-must-haves/

(And who would have thought that making gun powder involved inviting the Bishop over for wine tasting? )

[Kimmienemo]

Thank you!  Fantastic information!

[bigwull]

I agree, personal taste!  I find the "falling goose" rather disturbing!

Here are some more pictures.  I hope this is what you meant.

"falling goose" rather disturbing......no more disturbing than,eating a T-bone steak...or catching a salmon....or eating any other living creature....unless of course veggies are your thing.....