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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2012, 12:33:08 pm »
My big brother is visiting... (he is a big civil war collector) and he said first thing that it was a map holder!
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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2012, 02:50:20 pm »
Hallelujah!!......
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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2012, 08:49:43 pm »
My big brother is visiting... (he is a big civil war collector) and he said first thing that it was a map holder!

 What purpose was the inside rack ??

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2012, 10:52:12 pm »
He said it was to secure the map in position while one places it into the container!  Said he has seen a few like this over time!
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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2012, 04:58:16 am »
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am I missing something here...I never said this was the same as the map case in question..i,m using this as an example...for those that think that mrdave,s is,nt a map case...and as for the "brass case"...which looks awfully like copper to me...this one in my opinion was,nt spun as you put it.....

I think you enjoy missing things.

And I never said ….. that you said …. that it was the map case in question.

My very 1st sentence in Post #28 specifically stated otherwise.

Only a blind person would think that the two different pictures were of the same object that is in two different locations at the same time.

And Mrdave’s pictures implies that both the tube and its cap are one (1) piece of metal each.

Also quite thin metal, too. Which implies they were not cast (molded).

And ps, the three (3) piece metal insert appears to me to have been “spot-welded” together.

So please enlighten me as to your expert opinion as to how those items were manufactured circa 1860.

I assess the item that is posted based on the “picture” of the item. If I am unfamiliar with the item then I am only capable of offering “logical” guesses as to what it might be or not be.

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2012, 10:49:09 am »
On closer inspection of the insert...I see no evidence of a spot weld..if you look very closely at the bottom where the upright strap  meets the base...to me that looks like a rivet...furthermore ...the corrosion on the base of the insert indicates that it too is made copper...as to the tube itself...i,m still of the opinion that this has been fabricated..then soldered...
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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2012, 11:23:20 am »
OK, I now see what appears to be a rivet where the "back-strap" is affixed at the top of the "insert".

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2012, 07:59:55 pm »
They are definitely rivets. I am over joyed on how much attention this piece has received. I just can't wait till I find exactly what it is. Still on the hunt...

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2012, 08:06:14 pm »
Kc, thank you for your brothers knowledge on this. It has definitely pushed me in the right direction.

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2012, 08:21:28 pm »
I am not convinced that is what it is !! Why would a map need securing inside a tube ??  Its not going to move !!  Civil War maps I have seen were not that big !!  Field conditions then and even WW I were not the best, so simplicity would have been much more practical !!  Why not just roll it up and drop it in a case !! Why would it need to be secured in a metal rack then placed in a case that would be larger than necessary ??  Remember all this stuff had to be carried with them !!  Just makes no sense to me !!

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2012, 08:48:47 pm »
Well son of a bitch...

http://www.etsy.com/listing/111763766/vintage-metal-canister-copper-plated

They were used in a laboratory for unspecified testing.

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2012, 09:19:09 pm »

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2012, 04:18:17 am »
AH SO, ...... Mart, ...... we have been vindicated.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2012, 09:24:01 am »
Now, to find out the value!

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Re: Brass tube
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2012, 10:41:33 am »
AH SO, ...... Mart, ...... we have been vindicated.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Indeed Cogar !!  At least that makes sense !!