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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2013, 11:12:54 am »
Ok, so I'm new here, and don't really know anything, but I LOVE a good Google search challenge....

Does THIS PAGE help you guys out at all?  Or have you dismissed it due to irrelevance?  I noticed most the "A Letter" part:

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The letter, whether it is upper case or lower case, and the shape surrounding it, combine to indicate the year the piece was formed.  Each May, a different assay master was appointed and held office through the following April.  To match a precious metal piece to the assay master who oversaw its assessment, a system of revolving letters was used, one per assay master’s one-year term.  Twenty letters of the alphabet were used; J, V, W, X, Y, and Z were not included.  Each letter was used in turn, five times per century.  Each time the letter came into rotation it was varied in style or in the presentation of its surrounding shield.

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2013, 12:00:18 pm »
Hi BDB!

The letter in the diamond shape is the makers mark on this one.  This isn't hallmarked (which would have made it much easier had it been).  the 18ct is the purity and the 5 is the ring size. 

I am betting this was from a larger maker due to the fact the ring size is on it.

Jewelers are a different breed.  Some adhere to hallmarking. Some don't.  Many try and import hundreds/thousands of items to sell while a trend is in.  While others prefer to make their own, one-by-one, painstakingly.  A person may make only a few pieces in a lifetime and thus their mark never gets renowned.

This may take while, but hopefully sometime soon it could be deciphered.

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2013, 07:42:11 pm »
The design of this one just doesn`t look turn of the century to me !!  I an betting a mid century design !!

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 02:48:34 pm »
Ok, so I'm new here, and don't really know anything, but I LOVE a good Google search challenge....

Thanks for your effort! I love a good challenge too, part of the reason I'm still looking for the ring's manufacturer lol.

This may take while, but hopefully sometime soon it could be deciphered.

Oh I hope so... it feels important to know what I can about this little ring :)

I an betting a mid century design !!

Hi Mart, which century are you thinking of? I've seen 2 or 3 rings of similar design on eBay all claiming to be late 1800s? I'm not sure if they were date stamped though...

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 04:03:08 pm »
I meant 1900`s !! Somewthing about the style just doesn`t look like that time period !!  Looking at rings online is a crap shoot !! People say many things to make a sale !!  But can they prove it ??

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 04:06:21 pm »
I doubt there's much more value here other than it's intrinsic value - all in the gold and the diamond

What i'll say about the marks - would the Victorians have stamped 18ct in such a manner ? It's far more in keeping with early 20th.

Goldsmiths tended to use an incuse 18 back then

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 04:14:15 pm »
No they didn't use it back then.  Feel it is post WWII.
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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 04:15:42 pm »
Victoriana did fall into early 20th century...
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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 04:47:41 pm »
For a whole year.

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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 05:07:19 pm »
A very long time....for some people...or the blink of an eye...for others....you remind me of a Mutt i once had....i had to keep him on a short lead... ;D...btw....you,d be better off getting rid of that key..... ;D
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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 06:01:43 pm »
What are you on about ?


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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2013, 06:29:53 pm »
Harry Palmer would,ve known what i was talking about...you,ll have heard of him.....

there,s no point being full of one thing....if you don,t,have an inkling...when somebodies turning the key that,s been sticking out of yer back... ;D ;D
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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2013, 07:23:18 pm »
Don`t feel bad Ipcress,, I have no clue either !!  Totally lost !!

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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2013, 12:45:21 am »
Don`t feel bad Ipcress,, I have no clue either !!  Totally lost !!
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Re: 18ct gold ring with diamond - no hallmark
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2013, 04:50:19 am »
I was referring to the dog stuff.


Blimey.