this is,nt a competition about...who found what..although..i can now see that you think you have something to prove...and that you may be seeking a coconut...well...i,ve run out of them....i do admit there are striking similarities...but. .also a vast difference...i.e. K on the left as you look at pic 1...and J on the right....but as Mart says...we should wait until the O.P...gives us a location...which... i think all should do from the start....as it would save a lot of conjecture....