Antique vase, maybe bowl?

[Lydy]

Could anyone please tell me the history and value of this particular piece. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks

[greenacres]

http://www.kovels.com/Marks/Pottery-Porcelain/Words-Initials-A/Page-3.html

You can press for details.

[Ipcress]

This looks like Meissen but i'd need a clearer image. Could be a 250 year old original or one of their later remakes. Or a Samson type copy.

[Ipcress]

Appears as though the Helena Wolfsohn factory also used the mark later in the 19th century.

Probably that

[Lydy]

This looks like Meissen but i'd need a clearer image. Could be a 250 year old original or one of their later remakes. Or a Samson type copy.

I can get a clearer picture. You want the picture of the mark at the bottom correct?

[Ipcress]

This looks like Meissen but i'd need a clearer image. Could be a 250 year old original or one of their later remakes. Or a Samson type copy.

I can get a clearer picture. You want the picture of the mark at the bottom correct?

Yes but also a good close picture of the porcelain and design without the flash. At an angle so it's possible to judge age / quality.

[mart]

It isn`t Meissen !! Quality just isn`t there !!

[Ipcress]

I've sold Meissen like that thank you very much 

[bigwull]

methinks we won,t be buying any meissen off you then....

[Ipcress]

All those tens of thousands without one complaint...i must be doing something wrong.

You look at this and most people wouldn't think Meissen

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5932791

[mart]

http://users.skynet.be/rutrene/marks-meissen-ar1.htm
Doesn`t match any of the known marks !!  And since this mark was and is reserved for special pieces,, according to several authorities,,I would not consider this anything special !!  More a common decorative piece !!

[Ipcress]

Meissen AR vase
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-meissen-oviform-vase-circa-1745-5368287-details.aspx
I doubt you'd have classed that as a " special piece ".

Meissen AR mark
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-meissen-chinoiserie-circa-1730-blue-2097086-details.aspx?intObjectID=2097086
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/14507228_meissen-augustus-rex-porcelain-vases-pair

Note the similarities in both cases. The pattern / use of birds in the first, the mark in the second and third


It's probably Wolfsohn but i rarely discount something judged on internet photos when i know better.

[mart]

Nope !!  Sorry !!  Not even remotely similar in quality , mark or anything else I can see !!  The one with the birds was attributed to known ornithological works and was quite good !!  This one isn`t !!   Just my opinion though !!

[Ipcress]

These marks aren't remotely similar ?! Ha.
Okey dokey. I'll move on...

[greenacres]

Love reading a good debate.