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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2013, 06:35:58 pm »
Quote from: Ipcress on January 29, 2013, 06:07:59 pm
These marks aren't remotely similar ?! Ha.
Okey dokey. I'll move on...
what you have to remember here....is...Mart.. is,nt like us....she does,nt get free eye care....of free...spectacles.. .she has to rely on...off the shelf specs that cost a couple of dollars..."cheaters" she calls them....and to be truthful...she sometimes does,nt always see whats on the end of her..nose....a cheap pair of specs that are,nt doing here any favours...coupled with that half dead hamster..that runs her PC...basically...sh e,s up against it....you,d think that living in such a wealthy nation that had leccy lights in the 50,s whilst we here in the UK had gas...would by now be able to give its inhabitants...super fast broadband...instead of...go slow dial up..... ;D ;D
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2013, 06:40:22 pm »
That did not show when I looked at it earlier but even given that,, I still would not say it is 18th century Meissen !!  Did not see the age on the foot that would normally be present given that age and it just doesn`t have what I would be looking for in a Meissen piece !!   But if you think it is,, I will let you tell this person that she has a very expensive vase/bowl and give her the value on it !!
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2013, 06:42:25 pm »
Quote from: bigwull on January 29, 2013, 06:35:58 pm
Quote from: Ipcress on January 29, 2013, 06:07:59 pm
These marks aren't remotely similar ?! Ha.
Okey dokey. I'll move on...
what you have to remember here....is...Mart.. is,nt like us....she does,nt get free eye care....of free...spectacles.. .she has to rely on...off the shelf specs that cost a couple of dollars..."cheaters" she calls them....and to be truthful...she sometimes does,nt always see whats on the end of her..nose....a cheap pair of specs that are,nt doing here any favours...coupled with that half dead hamster..that runs her PC...basically...sh e,s up against it....you,d think that living in such a wealthy nation that had leccy lights in the 50,s whilst we here in the UK had gas...would by now be able to give its inhabitants...super fast broadband...instead of...go slow dial up..... ;D ;D

I won`t say what I am thinking right now,, Wullie !!
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2013, 06:48:27 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D :o
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2013, 07:14:43 pm »
Quote from: mart on January 29, 2013, 06:42:25 pm
Quote from: bigwull on January 29, 2013, 06:35:58 pm
Quote from: Ipcress on January 29, 2013, 06:07:59 pm
These marks aren't remotely similar ?! Ha.
Okey dokey. I'll move on...
what you have to remember here....is...Mart.. is,nt like us....she does,nt get free eye care....of free...spectacles.. .she has to rely on...off the shelf specs that cost a couple of dollars..."cheaters" she calls them....and to be truthful...she sometimes does,nt always see whats on the end of her..nose....a cheap pair of specs that are,nt doing here any favours...coupled with that half dead hamster..that runs her PC...basically...sh e,s up against it....you,d think that living in such a wealthy nation that had leccy lights in the 50,s whilst we here in the UK had gas...would by now be able to give its inhabitants...super fast broadband...instead of...go slow dial up..... ;D ;D

I won`t say what I am thinking right now,, Wullie !!
just a few minutes ago you were thanking me.....now you,re keeping secrets..... :o....you know i don,t mean it......but if you can,t say it here...just whisper it in me lug hole.... ;D
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2013, 07:32:59 pm »
Yes I thanked you,, but that was before you put me in the dark ages and blind as a bat !! ;)
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2013, 07:44:03 pm »
Quote from: mart on January 29, 2013, 07:32:59 pm
Yes I thanked you,, but that was before you put me in the dark ages and blind as a bat !! ;)
there,s nothing beats a bit of humour.....before you go to bed..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D...but not to worry..you,ll have 16 days respite....as i,ll be incomunicado...from tomorrow....we,re moving from the civilised boonies....and becoming a pair of toonies....with no broadband until the engineer comes on the 15th....
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 07:11:29 pm »
Quote from: Ipcress on January 28, 2013, 03:18:33 pm
Quote from: Lydy on January 28, 2013, 03:04:28 pm
Quote from: Ipcress on January 28, 2013, 03:59:42 am
This looks like Meissen but i'd need a clearer image. Could be a 250 year old original or one of their later remakes. Or a Samson type copy.

I can get a clearer picture. You want the picture of the mark at the bottom correct?

Yes but also a good close picture of the porcelain and design without the flash. At an angle so it's possible to judge age / quality.


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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 07:12:33 pm »
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2013, 07:14:34 pm »
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2013, 07:20:20 pm »
I tried to do some family research. My parents had them for over 60 years and they said when they received these two vases they were close to a 100 years old at that point. I have a few other pieces I will be posting as we'll. My father traveled all across the world and would receive these types of gifts before he would leave the country to come home.

If this piece was an original what would it's value be? If it's not an original what would it's value be?
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2013, 07:38:17 pm »
Well,, I will admit that these new pics change my opinion of this piece !! Remember we can only go by what we can see so the best pics possible are required. These are much better !! Only problem I would have at the present is the lack of wear on the foot but its possible that it wasn`t used or moved much !! You would really need an expert to do a hands on inspection to establish value but if its Meissen from that period then it would be a substantial amount if no damage, chips ect !! The Augustus Rex mark is one of the most sought after of all the Meissen marks !!
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2013, 07:55:07 pm »
Quote from: mart on February 05, 2013, 07:38:17 pm
Well,, I will admit that these new pics change my opinion of this piece !! Remember we can only go by what we can see so the best pics possible are required. These are much better !! Only problem I would have at the present is the lack of wear on the foot but its possible that it wasn`t used or moved much !! You would really need an expert to do a hands on inspection to establish value but if its Meissen from that period then it would be a substantial amount if no damage, chips ect !! The Augustus Rex mark is one of the most sought after of all the Meissen marks !!

I see you say substantial, but what do you mean by substantial? What does the majority of AR sell for? $100-$500 or are we talking $1000-$2000 if it was an original piece?
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Re: Antique vase, maybe bowl?
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2013, 08:11:53 pm »
Just doing a bit of searching.......and this may be way out there.......but this vase sold through Christies in 2010.  It has the blue  AR underglaze mark and what struck me was the birds and especially those bugs.  Here is the write up from the listing and a screen shot of a close up.


http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-meissen-oviform-vase-circa-1745-5368287-details.aspx

Lot Description

A MEISSEN (AUGUSTUS REX) OVIFORM VASE
CIRCA 1745, UNDERGLAZE BLUE AR MARK
Possibly painted by Christian Gottlob Häntschel with ornithological studies taken from Eleazer Albin, 'A Natural History of Birds'

Estimate

£1,500 - £2,500
($2,361 - $3,935)

Price Realized

£3,750
($5,914)




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