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Sherlockian

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Can you help identify these pots?
« on: March 18, 2013, 04:16:32 pm »
All found years ago in a pit by my husband on his parent's farm. He thinks they might have come from Mawdesley Hall.

The little teapot is marked on the bottom Japan R.K. & Co Wedgwood Place Burslem and we discovered that this might be Robert Kelsall & Co but we can't find any information about them at all.

The first milk jug is unmarked as is the Japanese style gravy boat which has a little design inside the boat.

We have more pictures in part II

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 04:23:05 pm »
Can you make the pics larger ??  Thumbnails are hard to see since they don`t enlarge at that size !!  Try 1000kb when you resize !! Not sure what you are using for pics ?? Computer or phone ??

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 04:46:25 pm »
It was taking ages to upload so I had to resize to thumbnail, let's hope this works.

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 06:41:43 pm »
That size is perfect !! Now we need to see the marks on bottom !!  Many times you can date by the mark because mfrs. may have used several over the years !!

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 09:14:11 pm »
Really need to see pics of the marks please!
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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2013, 04:09:04 am »
Ok so first is the bottom of the black/brown Japanese style teapot
Second is the mark on the bottom of the gravy boat
Third is marking on the pewter lid teapot

Those are the only objects with markings on the bottom.
He has loads more objects dug up so I might as well include a few more in this post and the next one. There are loads of bottles he has too.

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2013, 04:21:27 am »
A few more....

Sherlockian

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2013, 04:23:21 am »
Don't forget to check out my other photos here http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=13343.0

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2013, 06:29:55 am »
Nice ginger beer bottle for William Hodgson, Preston. BBR sold one and they're the top people in the UK for such items.

More history on him here
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NB8NAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=%22+william+hodgson+%22+brewery+sold&source=bl&ots=EkZp6JPS0h&sig=8Vo2mp_WgO3EOlpbH3xx9dXCdIY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kmBIUfeCMuOm0AX6kYHwDw&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22%20william%20hodgson%20%22%20brewery%20sold&f=false

and here is a blog which lists some of the pubs in the area where he was landlord

http://pubsinpreston.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/guild-inn-ribbleton-lane.html

Enter William Hodgson in to the search on the right and there are about four pages of links,

Quite a nice bottle. Probably worth three figures.


Pity about the Liverpool flagon
Incidentally, the house that's named on it is currently up for sale !

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-16220695.html

Looking at it's location, could easily have been a micro brewery / pub back in the day.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 07:03:59 am by Ipcress »

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 09:44:16 am »
I think you are going to have to divide them into different threads !! All are not showing !!  Or remove the thumbnails !!  This site has a limit I think !!

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2013, 11:40:09 am »
They are all there mart you just have to scroll sideways. The site does have a limit which is a bit of a pain and I know the images are all over the place. I should have started the one thread and posted several times.

Never mind, you live and learn!

Interesting info coming up on these.

I will have to speak to my husband but I think we might be interested in selling them as ideally they need to go to someone who can appreciate them, although I understand my husband is quite fond of them as he dug them up on his parent's farm here in the UK so they are kind of linked to his history and the history of the area where he grew up.

It's nice having a story to go with the items and to know where they are from.

I love the Valentine's bottle personally as that's my maiden name so I wonder if I could be related to them????

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2013, 01:15:57 pm »
Teapot with the pewter lid is Robinson, Kirkham & Co, although it appears as though the spout has been damaged.

Sherlockian

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 03:39:25 am »
That is interesting, I shall have to do some research on them.
Yes most of the pieces have some damage to them but we're not too bothered as we both think they are great anyway and provide a lovely talking point.
Knowing the history of each piece makes them even more valuable to us.

We're back at his parents this weekend and might see what else we can find.

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 04:15:14 am »
just get yourself up into their loft...you,d be amazed at what parents keep stashed away...i can remember clearing out my grans loft, in 1982...we came across whole cases of bully beef,tinned peaches,strawberry jam,all date stamped 1945...and i,m still here to tell the tale.....mind you after i,d made a pig of myself scoffing a few tins of  peaches,...I was able to crap through the eye of a needle,..from a great height...turned out the syrup contained Sorbitol...and we all know what that is....but i did,nt then.... ;D ;D
I make no excuses,and no apologies....but i like a good Malt,

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Re: Can you help identify these pots?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 05:22:52 am »
Sloppy desserts eh? Lovely!
These jars and pots were dug up from a pit on the farm and there may well be more buried beneath the soil.
There is a box of bottles that were also dug up and we'll try and locate that.
Might send my son down the pit with a spade - that's what kids are there for after all!