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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2013, 08:08:01 am »
If it was real gold would it stick to the magnet?

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2013, 08:15:14 am »
Noooooooooooooooooo ooooooo!!
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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 08:22:38 am »
I did the magnet test before even contacting the experts because I thought if it doesn't stick to the magnet then it could very well be real gold and the 14 represents 14 kt.  Also, I did discover in my research that a lot of gold  jewelry made before 1900s wasn't even hallmarked.  The article stated it wasn't until the 1960s when the hallmark act went into effect.  This does appear to be a vintage piece possibly late 1800s?  Thank you

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 08:23:50 am »
you can buy a gold testing kit on ebay..they are not expensive...
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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 08:28:09 am »
All this conjecture will get you nowhere...get it tested,..there is no point building your hopes up on Maybe,s....i hope it it is gold...but if it is,nt...just be sure to stay away from ropes and sharp razors....
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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 08:40:38 am »
Looks like gold to me but I've been fooled many times over, even with stamped items. Just for grins did you do the magnet test over the full length of the chain?

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 08:46:26 am »
Oh!..what a short memory you have...perhaps the upside/down Italian Plonk bottle will jog your memory.... ;D
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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 08:50:17 am »
Oh!..what a short memory you have...perhaps the upside/down Italian Plonk bottle will jog your memory.... ;D

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This was another one.....     ;D

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 09:19:13 am »
I've thought of purchasing the acid test kits, I guess that is what I'll do just to make sure thank you

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 02:13:16 pm »
I've thought of purchasing the acid test kits, I guess that is what I'll do just to make sure thank you

Here's a hillbilly method.
Back when I had a shop I used the "coffee mug gold test" as a rough guide in deciding whether or not to investigate further. Pretty simple...just turn a coffee mug upside down to expose the narrow unglazed rim. Rub a corner of whatever you are questioning across that rim. If the article leaves a gold mark on the rim, that's a positive sign that it's not plated. If you see a white or black mark, it's not solid gold.

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2013, 02:25:39 pm »
Well,, old dog, new trick syndrome again !!  Learned a new one !!  Thanks Rauville !! I rarely had jewelry since most of my business was in furniture !!

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2013, 02:45:20 pm »
I've never heard of that technique,  thank you

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2013, 03:25:46 pm »
I did the magnet test before even contacting the experts because I thought if it doesn't stick to the magnet then it could very well be real gold and the 14 represents 14 kt.  Also, I did discover in my research that a lot of gold  jewelry made before 1900s wasn't even hallmarked.  The article stated it wasn't until the 1960s when the hallmark act went into effect.  This does appear to be a vintage piece possibly late 1800s?  Thank you

Looks like gold to me but i'm judging it by an image

Use the following formula to calculate density: Density = mass/volume displacement. A result close to 19 g/ml indicates either real gold, or a material with a density similar to gold. Here is an example calculation:

    Your gold item weighs 38 g and it displaces 2 milliliters of water. Using the formula of [mass (38 g)]/[volume displacement (2 ml)], your result would be 19 g/ml, which is very close to the density of gold.
    Bear in mind that different gold purity will have a different g/ml ratio:
    14K – 12.9 to 14.6 g/ml
    18K yellow – 15.2 to 15.9 g/ml
    18K white – 14.7 to 16.9 g/ml
    22K – 17.7 to 17.8 g/ml

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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2013, 03:43:18 pm »
Gold test kit, = $15...simples...no mathematical formula,s needed...
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Re: Antique 14kt gold watch chain?
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2013, 04:26:45 pm »
I was curious so I tried the suggestion of the simple coffee mug test and it made a gold mark, great idea.  With the number 14 on the clasp it is probably 14 kt and it does have a beautiful rich antique gold  color.  How wonderful it is to be able to ask the experts and receive so many helpful suggestions.  Thank you