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Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« on: May 23, 2013, 11:37:49 am »
Hey,

i'm new here and am not an antique dealer but my grandfather was and my grandmother has given me one of his antiques from his collection for my birthday.

I was curious as to what century it came from and origin, my grandmother believes it may be (Ming dynasty).

It is thought to be bronze and i assume it was placed onto another object as it is hollowed and doesn't stand evenly on a flat surface. Here are some pictures of various angles of the lizard. I can take more if necessary.


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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 03:06:46 pm »
Looks like it's off something but i think it's worth is very minimal
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 07:44:45 pm »
Can you takew a closeup of the underside pic ??  That casting doesn`t look that old but will look at close-up !!
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 02:18:30 am »
The joys of dial up...If we get any closer...we,ll be inside the bloody thing..... ;D
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 06:25:44 am »






If you need any more specific photos just let me know,

as you may see there are several holes in the base and also on the inside there are two bumps as shown in the last image on each side and another 4 at the front end of the lizard.

my first reaction to it is that perhaps it was used for a water feature as the blue inside may be rust? also the mouth shape reminds me much of fountain ornaments in design:

such as this

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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 06:32:57 am »
bronze does not rust,as it is a non-ferrous alloy....it takes a patina....
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 06:36:24 am »
are these holes threaded,...
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 07:21:11 am »
It's also been constructed from two halves with the tail added on.


Don't rate it at all. Sorry !
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 08:43:22 am »
yeah sorry i meant tarnish not rust, and yes all three of the holes on the base are threaded.

The lizard seems to be assembled from two halves as there is a straight line across the centre of the lizard suggesting this.
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 08:45:25 am »
Guess it's much more recently made than i thought :/
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 09:49:42 am »
as the holes are threaded..are they an imperial thread or a metric...a simple way to test..if you are in the US,...and still using old measures,is to get a threaded screw from any Japanese appliance,these will be metric,and see if it will thread in..from the pics the hole size looks like 3mm/4mm...if it is metric then...then i,m afraid its more ding than Ming....
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 11:21:20 am »
its an imperial thread, metric screws won't fit in
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 01:15:06 pm »
But Not Chinese Imperial...more like home grown....
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Re: Bronze Lizard antique, identification? (with pictures) potentially Ming dynasty
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 07:42:31 pm »
At least I am not the bearer of bad news on this one !! 
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