Mystery Lamps - Can any collectors help me identify these?

[theoldtaboo]

Hi Everyone,

I've tried to narrow down the designer(s) of these, but I'm not having any luck. I know very little about antique lamps, so I'm hoping one of you may be able to identify these.

Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

[theoldtaboo]

Apparently the second picture didn't upload. Sorry about that! Here's the other lamp.

[Ipcress]

Are there any marks on the base / stem, particularly the second lamp ?

Certainly eyecatching. Loetz style shade. There are similar lamps making a few hundred to a couple of thousand and yet none of them look particularly old.

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/17100544_20th-c-bronze-winged-dragon-lamp-art-glass-shade

[bigwull]

well done Ip man...on that 2nd lamp.....i think we can safely say...that one has been nailed tae the Wa...

[theoldtaboo]

Unfortunately I can't find any imprint or marking on the stem of the lamp, but thank you for sending me a link to the Loetz lamps. They do look really similar, so this looks like an excellent place to start!

[Ipcress]

Loetz is the glass but i'm unaware of their extensive lamp shade production 

Iridescent / Opalescent glass like that has been copied

[theoldtaboo]

Awesome, thanks for the heads up...needless to say trying to track down the origin of these lamps is a little overwhelming, with so much information available online, but hopefully I can eventually figure out the source.

[mart]

Lamp and shade usually were not made by the same factory/company !!  Look for a foundry mark on the bronze,, often they are unmarked but you might get lucky !! 

[ghopper1924]

Loetz is the glass but i'm unaware of their extensive lamp shade production 

Iridescent / Opalescent glass like that has been copied

Sadly, I'm getting that "copy feeling" again...

[bigwull]

I suggest you look to China....for possible foundry....they are the biggest producers of Repo.Tiffany lamps...and about every other metal based lamps on the planet....they buy most of the worlds scrap metal....then sell it back to the world in many different guises....

[theoldtaboo]

Wow, this is all really interesting since the owner of these lamps was asking $3,000 for just one! You've all been extremely helpful, and I'm passing this info onto my friend ASAP.

[bigwull]

Wow, this is all really interesting since the owner of these lamps was asking $3,000 for just one! You've all been extremely helpful, and I'm passing this info onto my friend ASAP.

here,s another in the same vane...as what the Ip man found...be sure to show your friend these...

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/17100546_20th-c-bronze-bat-and-winged-dragon-lamp-art-glass

[Ipcress]

Loetz is the glass but i'm unaware of their extensive lamp shade production 

Iridescent / Opalescent glass like that has been copied

Sadly, I'm getting that "copy feeling" again...

Yes, but some very similar are still fetching a few hundred dollars.

It has that look of something trying to be Deco but not getting it right - this often means Chinese / Asian in origin. I wouldn't have that shade on that base.

[ghopper1924]

A few hundred for lamps such as these merely confirms their recent origin. Original lamps that are this elaborated should be going for many thousands.

Agree on the inept Deco feel.

[Rauville]

In regard to that first lamp: I don't believe I've ever seen a base notched and apparently designed around a "push button" switch like that.