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help with a stamp/hallmark
« on: June 13, 2013, 03:43:37 pm »
I came across an interesting item. I believe it is pewter but not sure. I will post a pic of it later to. I beit may be a flask or something similar.

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 04:06:01 pm »
Can you post a pic of the entire object ?? Does look like pewter but need to see it !!

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 04:18:40 pm »
It came from eastern Europe area I do believe.

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 04:22:08 pm »
Looks more like a funeral urn to me !!

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 04:31:15 pm »
It's very small holds 2 1/2 cups of liquid. I'm more intrigued by the unusual mark.

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 04:59:36 pm »
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles02/metals-a.shtml

Read about angel touchmark here !! Does it have any other marks other than this ??  Since this is a quality mark rather than makers touchmark,, need something else to identify it !!
Its spun pewter so not too old !!
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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2013, 05:22:58 pm »
It's very small holds 2 1/2 cups of liquid. I'm more intrigued by the unusual mark.

Does it have a handle or just round ?? 

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2013, 08:00:04 pm »
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles02/metals-a.shtml

Read about angel touchmark here !! Does it have any other marks other than this ??  Since this is a quality mark rather than makers touchmark,, need something else to identify it !!
Its spun pewter so not too old !!

It's a spurious version of that mark.

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2013, 08:17:02 pm »
Best I could find on short notice !! Does not look like its for liquid !!

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2013, 09:27:49 pm »
" Energy and Persistence conquer all things."

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" Energy and Persistence conquer all things."

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2013, 03:53:27 am »
It doesn't have a handle. I also knew it wasn't "old old" just the interesting mark. The one that is by Mark Rein Zinn is very similar. From what I have read, the N Sth comes from French meaning set free what was bound. It also is used to describe a very high grade metal used in Salomon ski bindings? Still have found no similar items though. What was its intended use? Hhhmmmmm?

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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2013, 05:30:25 am »
It's not the mark Greenacres has linked to, although it is similar, and Rein Zinn is not a maker.

 Also, this mark appears to have been applied a couple of times - notice the shadow line and the right half of the outer circle slightly of line. The angel's right foot develops in to the bottom half of another S


Think this is the closest we'll find

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-PEWTER-TEA-CADDY-JAR-URN-VESSEL-SCREW-TOP-COVER-LID-ANGEL-ESS-MARKED-/390595250864


If you wish to continue searching, try using Ore Angel Michael in various forms.
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Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2013, 02:09:02 pm »
Thanks. That is the mark with different initials. I have looked closer and to me it looks like the foot isn't an S but a symbol. Like one seen in Egyptian or Greek the sickle. Which makes sense since that symbol represents lead or metal