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18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« on: July 25, 2013, 07:06:20 am »
hi all,i am about to buy 2 items and i would like to know if the price is ok (i want to resell it).

so first item is a solid gold 18K ring with enamel,there some little Defect to the enamel it is weight 7.6gr .the price i can buy it is for 270$,how much do you think this ring is worth?

second item is an russian solid silver 84 cutlery that include:7 spoon, 1 knife,and 1 fork.
total silver weight is 544gr,and i can but it for 367$,how much do you think is worth?

please see the pics.

thanks.


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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 07:16:12 am »
The gold in the ring at today's market price is worth  approx. $332.41  not a great profit if resold for gold alone.  The silver is worth approx. $350.15 in today's market price. Not a great profit if resold for silver alone. They both could be more valuable but you would need to know the makers and do research into the value of their pieces.

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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 07:27:10 am »
well 7.6 gr of gold 18K is 242$.
and the silver is about 292$.
but sure i am not want to sell it in the metal price.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 07:32:24 am by artx »

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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 07:50:05 am »
Like I said unless the maker causes it to hold more value you will only get metal price or lower for resale. The damaged ring unless made by Tiffany or the likes of would only be worth metal price,  silver the same unless made by say Ovchinniko or the likes of.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 07:57:20 am by wendy177 »

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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 11:33:39 am »
Have to agree with the above.

I brought back a items from Russia and they don't hold value like I wish they would!  :(
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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 12:30:59 pm »
well i also heard that item from russia are selling well.
but i will pass this time.

thanks to both of you :)

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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 02:09:11 pm »
Disregard the above advice. A spoon similar to that, with the mark of assayer Mikhail Karpinsky, was sold for £80.
Is that a bell on one of the handles ?

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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 02:36:53 pm »
Ipcress Like I said "unless the maker causes it to hold more value -   They both could be more valuable but you would need to know the makers and do research into the value of their pieces"  example =   Jewelry Tiffany or the likes of - Russian silver  Ovchinniko or the likes of

The mark of the maker assayer Mikhail Karpinsky makes that piece more valuable than metal price alone.  ;)

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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 05:51:11 pm »
well i also heard that item from russia are selling well.
but i will pass this time.

thanks to both of you :)
yes you are correct...items from Russia are selling well,....now ask yourself....if they are selling that well, ....why are these items priced below their scrap[ metal value....
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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 06:27:05 pm »
I never said they didn't sell.  I just said that they don't hold value like I wish they would.

You can sell them!
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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 07:01:43 pm »
Have to agree with the above.

I brought back a items from Russia and they don't hold value like I wish they would!  :(
..maybe you bought the wrong type of item..... ;)
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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 07:51:41 pm »
Because something sells well one time doesn`t mean it will continue to do so !!  Look at your market area and see what similar items are selling for and check daily on gold and silver prices !! I agree with the others,,melt value is the only thing you can actually count on !!

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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 03:38:13 am »
But anyone considering these items as scrap doesn't know their onions.

I'd like a better image of the makers mark and the spoon handles if possible.

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 07:28:01 am »
But anyone considering these items as scrap doesn't know their onions.

I'd like a better image of the makers mark and the spoon handles if possible.
Mart,s an expert when it comes to all things veggie... :D.
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Re: 18K rind+silver russian cutlery
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 05:40:39 pm »
bigwull I actually bought silver serving items, jewelry (fine jewelry), pieces that the museum in Omsk was selling out of their collection because it couldn't afford to stay open unless it did!  They have held their values well...but haven't increased much.  The market has been/still is being inundated by Russian items over the past 10 years...thus values haven't gone up as they had in the past.  At some point it will happen again!

I totally agree that the value in items is in the identification of the makers!  So, depending on the items and their maker can make a big difference between $ and $$$$$!  Just like it is everywhere!

If you can post close-up pictures of the makers marks on the serviceware pieces that would be great!
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