Samuel Lear majolica?

[P360NUT]

Four Green plates only one has the name "LEAR" the others match but don't have this inscription.
1 plate of the four has obviously been repaired and is snapped in half and glued back together but the other 3 are fine including the signed one.

My research has brought up that these are Samuel Lear  1877-86 (Majolica, Jasper wear, China etc






Looking for a confirmation that these could be of value.
Many thanks

[bigwull]

Samuel Lear did work for Wedgwood...and other makers....whilst this plate has a different pattern....the clour..is very close to yours..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEDGWOOD-Antique-Victorian-Green-Majolica-8-5ins-PLATE-Sunflower-Wicker-No2/400537138356?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16351%26meid%3D198290388389584838%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D7784%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271057883569%26

[Ipcress]

Sorry but i don't see the quality. I'd class this as a spurious mark.

[KC]

Saw a LEAR mark like this on another forum and the top of the L was a more distinct Y.  The other forum said it wasn't Samuel's mark.

If you research Samuel Lear, you don't see a mark like this.....

It does have some crazing...however, unless you know that it belonged to your grandmother or great grandmother....this crazing can be reproduced today.

One of those that would need a hands-on inspection for me.

[P360NUT]

I certainly don't think its fake.. don't see how it can be!
Its incredibly rare then? Otherwise why would someone make a fake/copy.
Like I said in my post in the " new members " thread I have been asked to clear my 98! year old grandmas attic and some of the items I'm finding is VERY old and has been there MANY years.

This is his signature.
found from http://kl.majolicasociety.com/node/1282

[Ipcress]

My concern though is that it's plain when most of his majolica was more colourful, more stylish for that period. The base of the plate is crazed but the mark appears almost as if it was impressed after the glaze.
However, it could be from a line of more standard ware they produced, maybe before the factory closed due to poor sales.

Either way it's value is low.

[mart]

I have looked everywhere and cannot find where Lear ever did plates like this !!  Found one Question about a plate that sounded like this one and they were asking if it was real or fake but no pic to compare the two. The answer was that it couldn`t be determined if it was real or fake without pics !!  From that answer by an accredited appraiser that made me think that some were faked although I have no idea why they would be since they are not that expensive !!

[P360NUT]

Well I have a set of four like I said & only the one is signed Lear.

My gran is still alive so I will ask her what she remembers about them but I suspect they were my Grandfathers Uncle's.

[mart]

That would be a start !!  Anytime I buy an item or one is given to me I get all the info I can !!  Even at garage sales !!

[KC]

You might try searching "embossed" green glazed plates.

I have tried every way I can....

[P360NUT]

I still need further help with these plates.
What auction room should I contact in the UK for this type of thing so I can email them some pics?

Thanks
 

[mart]

Bigwull and Ipcress would know good auction venues !!

[bigwull]

Saw a LEAR mark like this on another forum and the top of the L was a more distinct Y.  The other forum said it wasn't Samuel's mark.

If you research Samuel Lear, you don't see a mark like this.....

It does have some crazing...however, unless you know that it belonged to your grandmother or great grandmother....this crazing can be reproduced today.

One of those that would need a hands-on inspection for me.

t reproduce the eggshell crazing..is relatively simple...all you need to do is put a piece of porcelain..into your freezer,leave it there for a few days,then, heat your oven, to around 180deg c...put the plate/bowl,or whatever onto the middle shelf and leave for about 10mins...the glaze will crack....when you have removed the object, allow to cool, then if you want to age it,..get some powdered stone...and rub it over the item...then...dust off the excess....now you have an old plate....

[P360NUT]

I understand what your saying but trust me its 100% NOT fake.

Its an old plate.. it was alongside many OLD items..

I would appreciate some hands on inspection as I know very little about what I've been finding.
 

  

[bigwull]

I understand what your saying but trust me its 100% NOT fake.

Its an old plate.. it was alongside many OLD items..

I would appreciate some hands on inspection as I know very little about what I've been finding.
 

  

you,ve grabbed the wrong end of the stick....i,m not saying its a fake..i was only explaining to KC..how you,d go about making crazy cracking...