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Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« on: August 09, 2013, 10:00:10 am »
can anyone help with some info in this funny fella??

was thinking Chinese?

 
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 11:18:51 am »
Oh how cute! I'm guessing this is an animated toy? I would guess it is from India since that is where the whole snake charmer thing comes from.
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 11:20:11 am »
I think he may be missing a turban?
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 02:08:38 pm »
What fun!!!

Is it a hand crank toy or a automaton (electric)!!!!
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 08:17:06 pm »
The knob on the side moves about an inch and he moves.
I made a you tube clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQaUb0Vn8o
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 04:58:32 am »
we,ll try and describe it to you Mart...... ;D
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2013, 06:38:07 am »
I have an old Sotheby's  catalog of Important Antique toys, and they have many animated figures on wooden bases ( the bases are very much like your base)  dating mid 1800s to early 1900s but all have keys and clockwork mechanisms for movement I did not see any with movement as  "primitive" (for lack of a better word) as yours.   I would send your photos and youtube link to a major auction house or several and await a reply(this could take up to 4 weeks). Could be nothing but my gut says have it checked  ;) Please let us know what you hear!
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2013, 08:42:00 am »
Quote from: wendy177 on August 10, 2013, 06:38:07 am
I have an old Sotheby's  catalog of Important Antique toys, and they have many animated figures on wooden bases ( the bases are very much like your base)  dating mid 1800s to early 1900s but all have keys and clockwork mechanisms for movement I did not see any with movement as  "primitive" (for lack of a better word) as yours.   I would send your photos and youtube link to a major auction house or several and await a reply(this could take up to 4 weeks). Could be nothing but my gut says have it checked  ;) Please let us know what you hear!
i don,t think i want to know what your gut says.....last time i heard someones gut.....it stank the house out..... ;D ;D
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2013, 09:49:44 am »
Talesof, if you remember over times people have been mesmerized with snake charmers.  You see resurgence of it over time.  In the early 1930's they were shown in early silent movies.  The Three Stooges even got in on the act later.  So, don't think it has to do with the country as the place of origin (but could very well be wrong).

I agree...I believe you have a mid to late 1800's toy/amusement.  I also agree that you should contact an auction house or better yet....try and contact this person for some assistance.
Antique Toy World  has a link and puts out a regular magazine.  
http://www.antiquetoyworld.com/

AND, as with anything that could "possibly" be rare, always get more than one opinion on value before you jump in!

Also, this is referred to as an "animated" toy.  It can also be referred to as a automaton but most people believe those are run by springs, battery, electricity...but yours has a lever and moving parts...so it can be called one!
http://www.antiquetoys.com/info.php3?lstCity=&value=Glossary~of~Toy~Terms
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2013, 02:22:47 pm »
Don't think it's as old as some of you think.


What does the base look like ?

Are you east coast of America ?
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 02:46:24 pm »
I could be up to 1930's....but I have been wrong before on an old toy that I thought was newer...and it opened my eyes to be more cautious!

I guess I should ask...is this toy predominantly wood, or wood and metal?
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 08:04:05 pm »
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2013, 08:20:27 pm »
I'd Go with Asian as I mentioned I have found other Chinese and Japanese items in the house.
those kobe toys look very similar.
its all wood no metal.
I'm in the UK east coast ;)
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2013, 09:45:22 pm »
You nailed it Rauville!!!  Have seen it touted as snake charmer and popping head...  Average pricing of completed listings from $375 - $600+  Last sale in 2012 of $440

Believe one like yours was sold in this lot at Christies' Auction!
http://www.christies.com/lotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4661118

http://www.japan-toy-museum.org/english/ekikaku2.htm
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Re: Funny little native man, with a big.... snake
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2013, 04:20:50 am »
Quote from: P360NUT on August 10, 2013, 08:20:27 pm
I'd Go with Asian as I mentioned I have found other Chinese and Japanese items in the house.
those kobe toys look very similar.
its all wood no metal.
I'm in the UK east coast ;)

Then you should e-mail Vectis and see what they think.


Well done Rauville !!! The " popping head " is lot 479 on that page. They estimated the two toys at $180-250


The ones in that Christies link look a bit smarter.
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