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artx

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is this mark is for solid gold?
« on: September 01, 2013, 04:43:15 am »
hi i got this mark on a pocket watch.
so there is 14K and "j"

is this 14k SOLID GOLD , OR  goldfild?

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2013, 04:48:27 am »
HERE  2 other pics of the watch.

the company of the watch is:  Chronometre-Tegra


and the watch weigh 59.6 GR

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2013, 06:00:26 am »
Hi Artx,

Judging by the mark the case it looks to be solid 14K gold (58.5% gold). If you wanted to calculate the scrap value of the gold you would need to weigh the case without the workings and the glass. However, there is probably more value in the piece as a whole. It is difficult to make out all the markings on the case, but one forum that you might want to try  is the watch & clock forum  http://www.nawcc.org/

They will probably also ask for clearer pics of the case and also the mechanism, and may be able to tell you everything you need to know.

Good luck

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2013, 06:06:51 am »
Found this and the 8th watch down seems to be very similar to yours

http://watch-auctions.com/model/no-model/0?page=2062&keep_filters=1

If we can find out how much Fellows sold it for then it might help you.


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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 06:10:32 am »

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 06:33:10 am »
They sold it for £380 but it was in better condition than Artx's, but also at a time when gold prices were slightly lower.

Think today this should be going for £400-450

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 07:11:53 am »
thank you all for ur really good help  :)

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 07:43:01 am »
Hi Artx,

I would still show it on the watch forum, get as much info as you can on the actual watch mechanism, you never know it may add $ if you decide to sell it.

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2013, 07:44:51 am »
HI  i did not find the correct area in the forum to ask it.

can u give me please link to the correct forum ?

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2013, 07:48:25 am »
This will take you to the right set of forums, and I would perhaps post under European Pocket Watches?

http://mb.nawcc.org/forumdisplay.php?297-Watches


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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 07:59:13 am »
well i don't really know where this copmpany is from.


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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 08:03:08 am »
Good Luck with it  ;)

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 08:52:01 am »
well i don't really know where this copmpany is from.


thanks you

Hi,

If you can get this translated it'll probably tell you everything you need to know:

Hallo Kurt,

die Marke Chronomètre Tegra stammt von Tschuy Freres / Tegra Watch aus Grenchen in der Schweiz. Die Firma hatte anscheinend auch eine Niederlassung in London. Die Marken Tegra, Justa und Undinis wurde 1939 registriert. Die Firma selbst existierte seit mindestens 1920 und mindestens bis 1951.

Die Punze ist der Feingehaltstempel: 14 Karat Gold = 56 Solotniki Gold = 585er Gold
Da die Uhr weder ein "Swiss Made" noch einen Schweizer Kontrollstempel für Gold aufweist, dürfte sie eher nicht in der Schweiz entstanden sein.

Wenn du den inneren Deckel auch noch öffnest und ein Bild des Uhrwerkes hier einstellst, könnte dies vielleicht weitere Informationen zur Uhr liefern.

Gruß
Badene
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Came from http://uhrforum.de/tegra-chronometre-aus-1910-1920-a-t127484
and I think I can understand enough to make out that it's a Swiss movement (but don't quote me!)   ;)

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 09:49:21 am »
http://nyeandcompany.com/auctions/107/tegra-chronometer-gold-pocket-watch-n9dn-2303521.html

2 years ago. Less gold but more decorative.

One yours - is the glass dirty or is it the face ?

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Re: is this mark is for solid gold?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 10:16:57 am »
is the face dirty.
 or maybe is the org color :)