Author Topic: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!  (Read 29449 times)

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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2013, 04:02:12 pm »
hermetically sealed case perhaps....
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2013, 04:56:08 am »
Obviously this is not just any book!  Your ideas about acid-free storage are good. I would also think about regulating humidity (at least in the room in which the book is stored)  if that's a realistic option for you.

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Thanks for sharing your remarkable story. I have ancestors from western Connecticut in the 17th century, and it made me pull out my geneology for another read! If only they had saved their bible.... ;) ;D
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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2013, 07:44:56 am »
This book will be fine without any special treatment. The paper from those days is a very low acid type and will last through the ages. Once you get over the shock of what you had to pay for it I would recommend having the binding restored in a way that is correct for its age. A good binder will be able to use the original boards in the new binding. This will probably cost a few hundred dollars but will give the book back the dignity it deserves.

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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2013, 01:44:24 pm »
Thanks very much for the input, that's good to know about the acidity of the paper. I'm guessing it is cotton linen?

I was thinking it would be good to get a small thermometer and humidity gauge for the draw that the two bibles are to be kept in. I think the temperature and humidity are pretty constant but it would be good to monitor it more closely, now that I've taken on responsibility for the Bolles bible. The drawer is in the lower half of my 1870s china hutch, so it's nice thick wood, very deep with plenty of air circulation. The hutch is strapped to the wall and the ceiling beam above it for earthquake protection. Inside the drawer I have the Bradbury bible that I got two years ago on a 1940s cotton placemat to protect it from the acidity of the drawer bottom and it is inside a custom-fitted dust cover that I made from 1930s cotton tea towels so it is protected from light, dust and the wood of the drawer.

When I got the other bible (Bradbury) I researched bookbinders and found a couple of them up around San Francisco and Sacramento that did nice restorations. When we got that bible it was in better than expected shape. This one is a different matter. The cover is completely off, it looks like it is tied on with string and the book has been hand repaired by family over the ages. Seeing those repairs is part of it's charm I think, so I will have to see what I think when it gets here. My feeling at this point is to preserve it in it's present condition without making any changes to it. But I have to think ahead to future generations and what this book needs to survive. Due to the great age of it, I'm inclined to do as little as possible. My only thought is to add a note on acid-free paper about how we brought the bible back into the family in 2013 and that it had been in the Washington National Cathedral Library before that. I will also put a piece of acid-free tissue around the 1909 letter so that it does not hurt the pages it is on.
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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2013, 06:45:48 pm »
Thanks for posting about this new piece of family history that's made its' way into your hands , talesof .

Seems like you've had a couple of visits from the great Swami Hafnaguutyme Vishnuwerhere , as to recent 'luck' with things that have found you !

Hells bells , maybe you'll decide to do a little 'fixin' on it yourself & continue &/or start a family tradition ?

Congrats on your really cool keeper (& I don't think you made such a bad deal @ all !!!) !

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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2013, 10:03:35 pm »
Words cannot express the joy of reading your (once again) amazing story.  You really topped yourself this time.

Every time I think...what is she going to do to top the last one...YOU DO IT!!!

Thank you for sharing this AND DO ADD YOUR STORY on acid free paper to the bible!!!
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2013, 01:29:17 am »
Thanks gang, I will definitely add the story. I get to be an important chapter in it's history and I think that is really exciting. I'm glad that it wasn't an ungodly sum of money to spend on a 17th century manuscript and I'll get over it. I spent that much on my Chinese bed and I know I will never regret having spent it to return the bible to the family. If I had not done it, I would have spent the rest of my life regretting the decision. Fortunately I have a wonderful husband, who supported the decision and understood the importance of rescuing it from Ebay. The seller is putting it in the mail Monday and I'll let you guys know when it arrives.
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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2013, 03:07:04 am »
Hi Tales,

I noticed that the P&P was only $4 .. over here the postal service would charge a lot more for an item of that value. Not knowing the US postal system, will that be tracked?

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 09:34:25 am »
I contacted the seller and they are sending it with tracking and insured for $1000 I don't know why the amount is low but they are turning a pretty good profit on it
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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2013, 09:38:41 am »
That's good, a bit of peace of mind!

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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2013, 07:59:11 pm »
Yeah I sent about four Ebay messages when I realized that they had economy shipping listed. Usually I will offer to pay for shipping extras, but in this case it should be expected with a rare manuscript. I also did a Buy it Now payment, so they got what they were hoping for. So I just told them how I wanted to to be shipped and they said not to worry.
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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2013, 01:02:52 pm »
I thought you guys might like to read a transcription of the 1909 letter that is with the bible:

The Old Bolles Bible
When father was searching through Connecticut for Bolles relatives and records to add to the family genealogy which occupied all his leisure for many years, he was told that a farmer of the name owned a very ancient Bible, which he would show, but never part from.
Going to the house, he was told by the wife that her husband was at work in the swamp. He soon found him, knee-deep in cold Mud and water.
Sitting on the wall, Father made friendly talk for awhile, & then said- “Aren’t you likely to have rheumatism after this work?”
“Likely?” growled the man, “I’m a martyr to it now.”
“Why not have long rubber boots?”
“Because five dollar bills don’t grow on bushes ‘round here.”
“I can tell you of one if you’ll give me your old English Bible, and I promise you it shall always be Kept in the Bolles family and you shall have a copy of the Genealogy I am writing.”
So the Bible changed owners. The Genealogy was published in 1865. Father told me he, at first, Kept account of what he spent in postage, but the figures accounted so alarmingly that he ceased to record them. His correspondence with Mrs. Richard Paddock (nee Bolles) of Princeton Illinois, led to our acquaintance with her for George when he came to Harvard Law School.
In 1862 he married my sister Cassie.
Lucy D. Bolles
April 1909
As none of Father’s sons left sons, Judith and I wish the Bible to go to the daughters of our Brother Frank, as at least born Bolles.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2013, 11:40:51 am by talesofthesevenseas »
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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2013, 01:40:42 pm »
I contacted the seller and they are sending it with tracking and insured for $1000 I don't know why the amount is low but they are turning a pretty good profit on it

Its that cheap because its media mail and rates are almost nothing !! I use it for any written material !! Books ect !! You could have requested priority mail for (usually) 3 day delivery !!  This is an amazing story and meant to comment days ago but always got sidetracked !!  Sorry Tales,, but glad you got the bible !!

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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2013, 05:07:47 pm »
I am sooooo glad it is insured shipping!!!!  I cringe to think after all this time it could encounter a fate....

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Re: Saved my family bible from the 1600s!
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2013, 05:12:06 pm »
I feel the same way, it would be awful. It wouldn't stop anything terrible from happening, but I could recoup the investment. I would think something with a thousand dollars of insurance would at least get a little more attention than a book rate package, or be watched a little more closely, but maybe that is wishful thinking. If it had still been with the CA seller, I would have picked it up in person.
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