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mariok54

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 11:57:28 am »
I think that the seller probably thinks it was a Baccarat piece.

This is an interesting link

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=25236.0

as is this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victorian-True-Pair-Hand-Painted-Baccarat-Butterfly-Vases-Insets-NR-/230991358761

Interestingly the people on the glass forum seem to think that Baccarat could come unsigned?

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2013, 11:58:44 am »
Not sure they have their dates right, and why throw Baccarat into the description other than increase search hits ?

Most likely because that's the signature on it !!

You beat me to it  ;D

But maybe not....

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2013, 11:58:49 am »
Well it has no connection with the company, which i think maybe the idea.

Means very little that signature.

Weird how these things are usually in the US....

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2013, 12:09:09 pm »
I think that the seller probably thinks it was a Baccarat piece.

This is an interesting link

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=25236.0

as is this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victorian-True-Pair-Hand-Painted-Baccarat-Butterfly-Vases-Insets-NR-/230991358761

Interestingly the people on the glass forum seem to think that Baccarat could come unsigned?

The vase pictured in that thread is of superior quality to those on Ebay and the signature is different. However, they're still not the quality of the Baccarat vases of the mid to late 19th century which weren't signed " Baccarat "

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-pair-of-baccarat-opaque-white-glass-5620566-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5620566&sid=4a531481-3b39-4152-ab40-3578928bf264

Massively superior in quality and design.

Then the subject of birds and flowers

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-pair-of-baccarat-pink-and-white-5248623-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5248623&sid=4a531481-3b39-4152-ab40-3578928bf264

There's just very little comparison. The people on that other forum who think they are Baccarat obviously don't know better.

And yes, many of the vases were unsigned. If they were signed, it was usually a painter signature.

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2013, 05:37:45 am »
Not that he needs a karma point, but I'll give one to Rauville anyway. That link depicts a vase that is quite close to mine, although slightly more elaborated.

I'd be happy to accept Smith Bros./Mt. Washington as the maker. No need for Baccarat.

To sum up: Looks like about 1880-1900. The value may be $300-$500, though I don't see any of them selling. Probably made in the U.S. by Smith Bros./Mt. Washington.

Sound about right?

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2013, 07:25:25 am »
Here's one for you

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-baccarat-yellow-and-white-opaque-glass-4269695-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=4269695&sid=cf084362-a5c9-41e3-aafa-3a60cd2d4094

Similar but compare these to those fetching more money. The colours, the decoration...just seems wrong. I think these may have been misattributed, hence the price. ( the pink pair sold for $1,400, btw, whereas these, marked more in the Bac style, sold for $6,000  http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-pair-of-baccarat-pink-and-white-4373840-details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=4373840&sid=cf084362-a5c9-41e3-aafa-3a60cd2d4094 )

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2013, 07:39:16 am »
Now that is darn close! ;D Just beautiful vases.
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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2013, 11:05:27 am »
Looks like $500 may be a good insurance price for my yellow vase....maybe more!

Good news, whether Baccarat (not likely) or Mt. Washington.
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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2013, 12:02:07 pm »
Yeah, that sounds sensible. I think they'd be better without that signature, to be honest.

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2013, 06:49:32 am »
In my opinion this is not Baccarat, not Smith Bros. or Mt. Washington!!  It is not cased glass but milk glass with yellow applied to top then painted. I believe production was late 20s to early 1930s. Will do more digging when I have a little more time.

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2013, 07:15:31 am »
The expert is on the case! watch this space....

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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2013, 07:16:59 am »
Yeah! Can't wait for more details!!  ;D
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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2013, 06:33:30 am »
Anything??
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Re: Yellow Art Glass Vase
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2013, 01:27:09 pm »
I have been reading this whole thread from a neutral corner and I still have no formed opinion. Hows that for not being helpful? Seriously it sure looks like the pieces that were shown except for one detail. The yellow seems uneven at the base as if it were a coating of some kind. I think Wendy picked up on the same thing.