Tin Ceiling Questions

[greenacres]

My husband says he works twice as hard for less money. Construction is a different business today.

[mart]

LOL, well yeah, I have been in the construction industry all my life, ALOT different now than in days gone by however, when it comes to a house for instance, if you have plans of ever selling it, one just can not ignore the realities of today. Just saying......

I understood what you meant Jacon4, I mean the public in general that sometimes doesn`t seem to use their head for more than a hat rack !! The only thing I can see that is accomplished by making things that have been around for years bad for you,,is to give the paint manufacturers a difficult time and to open up a new industry for the removal specialists that people cant afford !! The fact is that almost any substance when concentrated and applied to the human body over a long enough period is not going to be good for you !!

[jacon4]

There is another factor here, cost of restoration/installation VS new/installation. I would say without knowing the particulars of this tin ceiling situation that the costs would be cheaper going new because
1. You would have to be very careful with removal not to tear/damage tin
2. Then you have the lead paint issue that would have to be addressed
3. It's almost always more expensive to restore/install than the other way round

Naturally, there could be plus factors with the old ceiling that would cancel out any negatives, all i am saying is, just because it's old does not mean it's worthy of restoration.

[greenacres]

I understand plenty Jacon4. I live it. Yes it is much cheaper to buy new tiles.  But, people must be aware how expensive it is to buy old properties. It's the unknown that gets you all the time.

[jacon4]

Going back to OP question...... "Also, does it have any value if it were to be taken down."

No, probably not

[ghopper1924]

Many in the home décor and craft industry do not want them stripped,,they want them as-is and throw a clear sealer on them !! The lead based paint would not worry me as long as no infants are allowed to chew on it !! I have probably eaten half a ton  of it !!  That's about all we had and since my family was in the building business we were exposed to a lot of it !!  Our cribs were painted with it as well as everything else !! None of us had lead poisoning !! And My granddad and my dad tore down houses in some of the Dallas historic districts !! They didn`t restore many houses back then !!  And they both lived a long life !!  I just think so much of this stuff is hyped up that it scares people without them ever thinking about it logically or using common sense !! If its so bad now,, why wasn`t it bad back then ?? If it was,, I should have croaked years ago !!

Hmmm, this explains alot.....

[mart]

Many in the home décor and craft industry do not want them stripped,,they want them as-is and throw a clear sealer on them !! The lead based paint would not worry me as long as no infants are allowed to chew on it !! I have probably eaten half a ton  of it !!  That's about all we had and since my family was in the building business we were exposed to a lot of it !!  Our cribs were painted with it as well as everything else !! None of us had lead poisoning !! And My granddad and my dad tore down houses in some of the Dallas historic districts !! They didn`t restore many houses back then !!  And they both lived a long life !!  I just think so much of this stuff is hyped up that it scares people without them ever thinking about it logically or using common sense !! If its so bad now,, why wasn`t it bad back then ?? If it was,, I should have croaked years ago !!

Hmmm, this explains alot.....

I was waiting on someone to say that !! 

[cogar]

Hmmm, this explains alot.....

I was waiting on someone to say that !!  

  and that's why we have a lot of "guests" that view this Forum.

[KC]

LOLOL  Mart, you walked into that one! 

[mart]

Ha !!  Just gave them fuel for the fire didn`t I

[jacon4]

LOL, oh dear, i think someone just called mart crazy. To much ingestion of lead as a child i am guessing!

[mart]

LOL !!  You think that's what they are trying to tell me Jacon4 ??

[jacon4]

Well mart, you know, there is a theory that ingestion of lead was one of the leading causes of the fall of the roman empire. Matter of fact, plumber is latin for...."worker of lead", 2 thousand year old profession. So, 2,000 years later plumbers are still working with it a bit but no where near the old days.
The latest federal mandate on lead relates to brass fittings which, until 2011 had trace amounts of lead. Now it does not and that 1 little change has caused the prices of brass fittings to double, naturally, plumbers are switching to stainless steel fittings as a result.

[mart]

And have you priced anything in stainless lately ?? Went to get a snap latch for one of the horse stalls, didn`t look I just grabbed one,,went to pay and that thing was $12. I asked if it was sterling but no,,just stainless steel !! Took it back and got a brass one for $2.49 !! Works just as well !!

[jacon4]

Mart, yeah, brass is still a very competitive metal EXCEPT when used for plumbing fittings, it's gotten to be outrageous with new federal mandate on lead. This has led to a boom in 304 stainless fittings in the plumbing/mechanical market.
Were trace amounts of lead in brass fittings installed in a domestic water system harmful to humans? I dont really know but i do know that forcing foundries to remove those trace amounts is hideously expensive.