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Something for our American friends
« on: October 02, 2013, 01:10:08 pm »
One of the first collections i helped catalogue in the auction industry was a massive collection of paper ephemera and comics. Many first issues of early newspapers and magazines but also the first American comics from the funnies to the superhero stuff. Some bought by The British Museum, amongst others.
Amongst all these were many bounds volumes and within one 19th century bound volume i found this letter. Probably placed there for safe keeping.

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It reads

I cannot be satisfied, my Dearest Friend,
blest as I am in the matrimonial state,
unless I pour into your friendly bosom,
which has ever beat in unison with mine,
the various sensations which swell
with the liveliest emotions of pleasure
my almost bursting heart. I tell you my dear
husband is the most amiable of men.
I have now been married seven weeks and
have never found the least reason to
repent the day that joined us. My husband is
both in person and manners far from resembling
ugly, cross, old, disagreeable, and jealous
monsters, who think by confining to secure
a wife it is his maxim to treat as a
bosom friend, ................... ......... and not as a
plaything, or menial slave, the woman
of his choice............. ........... Neither party,
he says, should always obey implicitly;
but each yield to the other by turns.
An ancient maiden aunt, near seventy,
a cheerful, venerable and pleasant old lady,
lives in the house with us - she is the de-
light of both young and old; she is ci-
vil to all the neighborhood round,
generous and charitable to the poor,
I am convinced my husband likes nothing more
than he does me: he flatters me more
than the glass, and his intoxication,
(for so I must call the excess of his love)
often makes me blush for the unworthiness
of it's object, and wish I could be more deserving
of the man whose name I bear. To
say all in one word............... ..........and to
crown the whole...........my former lover
is now my indulgent husband, my fondness
is returned, and I might have had
a Price without the felicity I find in
him. Adieu! may you be as blest as I am un-
able to wish that I could be more
happy!


It is appears like a letter to a friend informing her of a new and happy marriage. However, when one reads every other line the true meaning is revealed - a very unhappy wife !

The letter has been referenced in several 19th century publications. My copy is from around the date that appears top right but i have been unable to verify the location in Carolina. I know it reads " South Carolina " before that was a state but i have seen many letters which give an area of a state or county that is not official. ( North or South Devon for example )
The paper stock - it's laid paper. Authentic, not a modern stock. Very similar to that used by George Washington ( i've seen close ups of that type of paper )

Anyone have friends or colleagues that know about Carolina's history ?

« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 01:17:14 pm by Ipcress »

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 01:53:59 pm »
I am assuming that is Deviltry House ?? Odd that it has South Carolina written since it was not formed as such till 1729 !!

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 01:57:43 pm »
I've mentioned that in the post, Mart. Quite common for someone in this country to write North Devon or North Notts when the official county name is Devon or Nottinghamshire.

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 02:14:38 pm »
Ipcress--is this a known letter or how did one figure out it to be a riddle(?)

If so she sounds miserable-poor thing

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 02:41:00 pm »
Yes but I was referring to the way it is written, Normally if its just written as a location,, seems it would be written as south Carolina, but if written as a state the S would be capitalized !!  South Carolina !! Its odd that the word South is there at all !!  It was still an English colony in 1653 !!  Can`t think of any reason it would be other than as part of the name !!   Just seems odd to me !!

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 02:43:04 pm »
I think because of how it's structured. The are extended ellipsis so that certain words start on a new line.

Also " de - light " and " ci-vil "  so that it reads " devil "

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 02:45:12 pm »
Yes but I was referring to the way it is written, Normally if its just written as a location,, seems it would be written as south Carolina, but if written as a state the S would be capitalized !!  South Carolina !! Its odd that the word South is there at all !!  It was still an English colony in 1653 !!  Can`t think of any reason it would be other than as part of the name !!   Just seems odd to me !!




South Devon does not exist. People capitalise, Mart.


Jebus  ::)

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 03:29:12 pm »
Did someone sign this letter ?

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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 03:58:01 pm »
I'm as far from an expert as possible, but I would question this letter on a couple of points.

1. Since Charleston was the first English settlement in South Carolina, and was established in 1670...who was living there in 1653?
   The name "Deviltry House" seems a bit of dry humor in itself.

2. Isn't it unusual that this is written in Modern English?

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 04:52:25 pm »
I`m with you Rauville !! Certainly isn`t written in the English of the day !!

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 07:05:34 pm »
In addition to the modern language, don't see any of the "f" letters that are equal to "S" or "SS" and there is no width to the script, like you would expect to see in something written with a quill when the stroke goes on the side of the quill. This looks to me like a metal nib dipped in ink. Very strange that it would have a date that appears to be 200 years too early! Interesting!
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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 07:37:33 pm »
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Spencerian_example.jpg/361px-Spencerian_example.jpg

This is a copy of writing from 1884. I know people saw writing as a art. But this is more of a professional document, not personal. (In America)
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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2013, 08:31:21 pm »
I just read that only 35% of women signed ther names. You must have been very wealthy.
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Re: Something for our American friends
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 05:40:03 am »
I'm as far from an expert as possible, but I would question this letter on a couple of points.

1. Since Charleston was the first English settlement in South Carolina, and was established in 1670...who was living there in 1653?
   The name "Deviltry House" seems a bit of dry humor in itself.

2. Isn't it unusual that this is written in Modern English?

People were living there before 1670.

It's intrigued me but i know paper and and antiquarian books, although the writing does have similarities with more late 18th century styles than 17th, but then i've been in the British Museum and seen similar types of discrepancies. If it is later than the date it's not been written in the last 150 years.
Nibs and different types of pen were becoming more common in the 17th century and not everyone used a quill.

" You must have been very wealthy " Who, Greenacres ?

As for signing - it is addressed to Rose but the signature isn't as clear.