Old Oil painting on canvas

[bigwull]

I bet she does....she comes across...as spic & spanner....you only have to look at her avatar...to see that....

[icedgold10]

Sadly, I do clean all my art work.

[bigwull]

Oh Well!!....cleanings fine....just don,t be too heavy handed with the scrubbing brush...and the Domestos....

[mart]

You don't clean all the artwork you have, do you ?

This one sure needed it !! Grit and grime does more damage to artwork than anything !!  It wears at the surface of a painting !!

[bigwull]

as long as she,s no using this she,ll be ok

[icedgold10]

I wrote to this Art Expert place in New York and sent a picture of the painting.  I asked if it could be the work of Thomas Doughty of the Hudson River School.  This is his response:
 Dear Robyn,

We authenticated a Doughty that had similarities in how the landscape looked. As much as I can tell from the photo you provided it looks as if indeed it could be his work.


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[mart]

I guess that's a good thing for you !!  I had all but discounted the Hudson River School artists because there was so much I couldn`t see because of the scrapes when I enlarged it !!  Glad to know it could be one of the artists !!

[bigwull]

well done you....does this mean you can have it professionally restored....or are you just goung to DIY,it...

[icedgold10]

I will leave it to the pros if it is authenticated.  Another person just emailed me from that place asking to research it.  Waiting to find out the price for the research.

[bigwull]

I will leave it to the pros if it is authenticated.  Another person just emailed me from that place asking to research it.  Waiting to find out the price for the research.

..Let me get my head around this.....you get an email...from a researcher...asking you if they can research this painting....but you have to pay for this...just as well its not my painting....or else they,d be told to take a hike......

[icedgold10]

I asked how much it would be , she never brought up charging, she hasn't responded yet.  I like to get a handle on who these people are more.  If it requires payment for research it is not going to happen because I know I can get it done free.   The man that sent me the email responce sent my information to her.   Here in the U. S. you have to be very careful who you deal with.  I have also sent pictures to my local museum. 

[mart]

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/ihas/icon/hudson.html

A very wise move Icedgold10 !!!  Historically speaking this should be worth researching for free !! Its a feather in any researchers cap to authenticate one of the early paintings from this movement !!  And don`t let it go anywhere !!
This movement in American art produced the nations premier landscape painters most of which are hanging in museums !!

[Ipcress]

Must say the brush strokes don't look fine enough for Doughty, more in keeping with something like this - a " sketch " piece by Sanford Robinson Gifford

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1432710

who was apparently influenced by Doughty.

The figures are naive or ' crude '. There's also very little to no definition in the far landscape and yet Doughty appears to have been quite meticulous, painting exactly what he saw. No impressionism here.

so in conclusion i think it's either a sketch piece, someone less talented from the same period or a follower of Doughty.

I just wish you hadn't cleaned it. That lower left section looks almost varnished !

[mart]

Many artists did varnish their work !! Was a common practice !!

[cogar]

It was “fashionable” at the time to invite artists to “spend the summer” at those camps, lodges and estates ….. up along the Hudson River, in the Catskills, the Mohawk Valley, Trenton Falls, and the Adirondacks in upstate N Y.     

So, there are a lot of paintings out there …… by a lot of different artists …… and one never knows when the “next one” will show up in a garage sale, estate sale, a closet, a basement, a barn or an  attic.