Please help - Henry VII Dagger

[Makafi]

Hi Everyone,

I have a unique dagger. I asked for valuation on "value my staff" but they seems to dodge. Hope somebody could help me.

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Dagger is OLD (medieval I think), it has sheath made half ivory half wood with very interesting engravings. There is Tudor's coat of arms with sourronding "ribbon" saying "hony soit qui mal y pense" (typical for the Order of the Garter). Below there is Henry VII bust signed "Henry VII". I assume it's original dagger of one of 24th Order of the Garter knights, but of course I may be wrong.

I'm looking any information on this dagger, valuation would be perfect but maybe some facts, drawings, references, something...

Wishing all the best,
Makafi

[bigwull]

welcome,...first of all could you post the pics direvtly onto here..as there are some members who will not be able to view the pics as their operating on dial up....now to this dagger,..before we go any further...may i ask how you came by it...what country are you in...and most importantly...what makes you think its genuine,...because if it is...you may have to tell your boss where to shove his job..."But"..on the other hand...it may be a repro,...first we will ask you have you done a hot needle test...to determine if the crossbar and sheath are made of resin...if you have,nt then i suggest you pick an out of the way spot and do this...as it will tell you one way or the other...

[Ipcress]

Wow, i wish i could see this first hand !

How have you come by it, or where did you get it from ?

Looks exquisite.

[Makafi]

Hi. I'm attaching photos (previous links won't work) and in the evening I'll deliver more detailed ones.

It's 100% ivory - I did hot needle test - also it has discoloration typical for ivory. 

We found this dagger in Poland, it lay in the attic covered with dust since WWI - mine greatgrandfather is already dead so we can't ask him where did he get it.

[Ipcress]

Is the sheath just covered on one side ? And what does the other side of the hilt look like ?


Yeah, it looked like ivory just going on the photos.


I think it's amazing.

[Makafi]

Is the sheath just covered on one side ?

Yes, the second side of sheath is made of wood. As it become bone dry with time, the wood doesn't hold ivory rivets in the place (holes are too big) - that's why you can see elastic rubber on both ends, I put them on to hold the parts together (I'm not crazy to glue this or something).

[Ipcress]

I like the sound of that actually.  Any chance of a couple of clearer images, especially the hilt and the blade ?


Looks like a presentation piece, just trying to ascertain age.

I know of something similar but need more evidence

[Makafi]

I like the sound of that actually.  Any chance of a couple of clearer images, especially the hilt and the blade ?


Looks like a presentation piece, just trying to ascertain age.

I know of something similar but need more evidence

Yes, I'll make and upload images in the evening, right now I'm out and about.

The only similar piece I found was: http://www.eliteauction.com/catalogues/011412/view.php?id=9

[Makafi]

Sorry for multiposting but I want to upload images with full resolution.

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