hi i bought a new item

[artx]

i have this mark on my new item,from what i found in the internet this mark says is it a sterling silver made in london UK,in the 19th.

i would like if someone can tell me if i correct or not,and if there is more info that this mars says.


thanks

[artx]

1 MORE PIC.

[Ipcress]

Jacob Rosenzweig - later Rosenzweig, Taitelbaum & Co
London 1916

However, i am concerned about the marks in the first picture. They are incredibly sharp and fresh looking, especially when compared to the item in general and the other marks.

What is the black line round that area ?

Can i see an image of the whole item, so as to compare with their other stuff ?

[artx]

hi here is the item.

this item made by tow Pieces both are well marked,also all the bells are mark too.
same the flag.

the  black line made by Pen and can be clean easily.

Jacob Rosenzweig was known of making  a jewish item.

[KC]

Does it stack or come apart?

Also can you list the dimensions please?

[artx]

size are:
Height:27.5cm or 10.75inch

Weight 424gr
Diameter base are:9cm/3.5in

[KC]

This reminds me of a Victorian baby rattle is why I asked!!!  They would be made in silver and for the "well-to-do"!

However, if it opens...it reminds me of 2 things!!!  A Judaica Victorian spice box!!!  AKA Spice Tower!  or a Judaica incense Besamin holder!

[artx]

yes you are totally correct, this is a judaica spice tower.

[KC]

Used in Jewish ceremony!

"Blessing over the spices
A special spice box filled with fragrant herbs (besamim) is used to represent the redolence of Shabbat (the spices commonly used are cloves, cinnamon, or bay leaves). Since smelling spices helps distinguish special fragrance from the more ordinary, part of the reason for the besamim box is to illustrate another separation of the sacred from the profane. The following blessing is said upon smelling the spice box"
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Blessings/Shabbat_Blessings/Havdalah/havdalah.html

[artx]

yes is also call in hebrew besamim.

thank you very much for the info.


 

[Ipcress]

My advice would be to search google for other period pieces made by Rosenzweig. Then look at Ebay and wonder why the same seller in Israel is trying to sell elaborate pieces which look dubious in nature.

I have serious doubts as to the authenticity of this item, Art. Ignoring the style for a second, some of it looks well polished and subject to lots of rubbing...then those marks appear like they were stamped yesterday.

[artx]

well i will try to look for other item.
btw the seller you speak has more than 16434 Feedback  100%

here other item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-JUDAICA-SILVER-SHOT-GLASS-ROSENZWEIG-TAITELBAUM-BIRMINGHAM-1909-/121155103686?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item1c35682bc6&nma=true&si=SSYwWW%252FyZA54G%252F98%252B4K%252BAAhy2aQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-COLLECTION-OF-FIVE-ANTIQUE-SOLID-SILVER-KIDDUSH-CUPS-/291010375282?pt=UK_Antiques_Silverware_RL&hash=item43c191ee72

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Sterling-Silver-Judaic-Kiddush-Cups-by-Rosenzweig-Taitelbaum-Co-1912-/171120720569?pt=UK_Antiques_Silverware_RL&hash=item27d796fab9&nma=true&si=SSYwWW%252FyZA54G%252F98%252B4K%252BAAhy2aQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

why ppl will fake his mark? he was not so important.
thanks

[greenacres]

Lol, that's not a shot glass! That's a kiddish cup!

[artx]

btw, what would be the best way to clean the Pen line (as you can see in the first pic).

thanks.

[KC]

Try making a paste of baking soda and water and gently rub it off!!  The important word here is GENTLY!!!!

Only if this doesn't work try acetone (nail polish remover) ON A Q-Tip and only on the area with ink - GENTLY rub.