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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2013, 05:31:28 pm »
Well, just to add my tuppence worth...or fuel to the fire,as some may say...when you boil it all down..."American"...furniture..shoul d be re-named..Multi-National furniture..for after all..the only true Americans were the indigenous tribes,that roamed free ...before  the English,Scots, Irish,and almost every other foreigner arrived in America,...and its from them..that your,"American furniture"became what it is today...Simples.... ..and as for this table...being English...well,we don,t know from where it came,..its owner might live in the Uk..but that does,nt make the table...British.. ..shall i keep my hard hat on  ;D
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2013, 08:28:36 pm »
You can take it off !! You are quite correct !!  To simplify,, just say "Made in USA" !! ;D  Sure wish I could see those words on a lot more of the items we buy !!
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2013, 04:21:13 am »
american furniture RULES, everybody else DROOLS!

Actually, the only known American designed furniture that wasn't "borrowed" from others is................. ....SHAKER!
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2013, 04:26:32 am »
Instead of..."Made in China"..or Vietnam,..or Taiwan,..or any of the other eastern countries,.its the same here,...but..its our own fault...as we demand..cheaper prices,...Over here we, like America had a thriving,car industry,...Motorcycle industry,etc...but,then along came the Japanese in the 60,s...with cheaper alternatives,...the same goes for the electronics,clothes...you name it...they make it....
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2013, 04:33:47 am »
Quote from: jacon4 on November 09, 2013, 04:21:13 am
american furniture RULES, everybody else DROOLS!

Actually, the only known American designed furniture that wasn't "borrowed" from others is................. ....SHAKER!
"would you like to have a rethink on that statement" like i said in my original post...all your "furniture" origins came from other shores... ;D...

Shaker furniture is a distinctive style of furniture developed by the United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing (aka Shakers), a religious sect founded by Jane and James Wardley. They came to America from Manchester, England in 1774 led by Mother Ann Lee. Shaker furniture is widely admired for its simplicity, innovative joinery, quality, and functionality. Shaker designs were inspired by the ascetic religious beliefs of the Society. Shakers made furniture for their own use, as well as for sale to the general public.
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2013, 04:38:27 am »
I dont think the shakers made furniture until they came to America, I am not aware of any english shaker furniture, is there any?
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2013, 04:52:54 am »
You are missing the point here Jacon...which brings me back to my original post on "American"furniture,...before America was colonized...There was No American furniture,..These foreigners that arrived brought with them..their tools, and more importantly, their knowledge,of making the furniture that you so like,..The Shaker,s are a prime example,..they came from England,they had this idea long before they landed on the shores of America,...for up until then..it was Wigwams & Teepees...and squating on furs...
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2013, 05:19:29 am »
Look, furniture is a relatively new concept for humans. For instance, most people did not sit on chairs until the 18th century, they sat on stools, chairs were for kings and the wealthy even in england. Indeed, there are only 24 or so known american wainscot chairs from the 17th century that exist.

As for the Shakers, they came to america from england in the last quarter of the 18th century (all 6 of them)however, they did not have shaker communities in england nor build furniture there. They did not build furniture here until the 19th century and are credited with the first and only purely american form of furniture.
Good info on Shaker furniture here
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/shak/hd_shak.htm
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2013, 05:56:44 am »
What part of all of this are you not grasping Jacon,what I,m saying is,All American furniture stems from those early settlers,thats what i,m saying,I,m not saying the Shaker,s..made their furniture in England, nor any of the others either,my argument is..they went to America,..found no cohesive infrastructure,..no chairs, no nothing..that,s my point,..and as for that ridiculous statement..that nobody sat on chairs prior to the 18th century...methinks you should take a look at the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians..before uttering such a statement... ;)
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2013, 08:07:29 am »
Quote from: jacon4 on November 08, 2013, 12:47:09 pm
You gotta admit you kinda stepped into this one as the piece turned out to be english after all :)

I'm not convinced it's English
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2013, 09:29:29 am »
Don`t think it is either Ipcress !! That's why I said that the person either isn`t in U.S or its an import !!  Page 1 !!

Would still like to see the underside !!
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2013, 10:59:28 am »
No, it doesnt have to be english but, it looks awfully plain to be a victorian repro import from asia that were popular back in the 60s

Any chance we could get a pic of bottom as mart suggested?
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2013, 12:47:52 pm »
Gawd!!...this wanting to see bottoms..is like a contageous disease..See what you,ve started Ms Underhill... ;D...
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2013, 01:16:57 pm »
Each time I try to attach some photos of the underneath I get and internal error message from the server
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Re: How to date furniture?
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2013, 03:48:48 am »
Hmmmmm, thought i would try a reply and see what happens.......
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